Ian Taylor puts the boot in again...

[Praktica]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/3606836...rd-pillock

[zqwerty]

Yes agree wholeheartedly.

The National pillocks need to go as soon as possible; how on Earth did they get voted back in?

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Jan though, in her post over in our ginormous Never Enough thread has a very good point about the process of pay equity claims and who benefits. But rather than stymie existing and future claims in order to save potential billions, why didn't the government examine the process and make it better? Easier to use? More accessible to those who need it? Because paying all people decent earnings for work done is a good thing, right? No one wants labour ripped off, right? Our entire community benefits when work is rewarded properly and fairly, and the gap between rich and poor continues to shrink? Fair pay for everyone?

Right?

[heisenberg]

 how on Earth did they get voted back in?

Because Labour were a inept circus and if they get voted in again TPM and the Greens will be calling the shots

[harm_less]

 how on Earth did they get voted back in?

...if they get voted in again TPM and the Greens will be calling the shots

You state that as if it's a bad thing

[heisenberg]

...if they get voted in again TPM and the Greens will be calling the shots

You state that as if it's a bad thing

TPM want to eradicate whiteys even though they have European heritage and the Greens are no longer for the environment more like shoplifting trans activists if bussy boy has his way

[Oh_hunnihunni]

There is this habit voting blocs have, of becoming bored with the incumbent government. We see it quite often, and it isn't offset by the shorter term we have in Aotearoa. Add to that the consequences of the pandemic, which to my mind resemble the screaming energy release of six year olds when a long and rather dull class empties out onto a playground. We know things can be better, and we want that so much we become blinded to the obvious. It has happened to the US, and it is a tragedy. But, that tragedy has become a red flag to other nations, to Europe, to Canada, to Australia, and perhaps even the Vatican...

The trick this time will be to make sure the Winston effect is not allowed to poison the coalition. To make sure that the small voice in the happy families arrangement does not become the demon child determined to wreck everything if it doesn't get its own way.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

You state that as if it's a bad thing

TPM want to eradicate whiteys even though they have European heritage and the Greens are no longer for the environment more like shoplifting trans activists if bussy boy has his way

Sometimes, your posts seem to signal that you want to be disliked. It's a bit sad, that.

[Praktica]

TPM want to eradicate whiteys even though they have European heritage and the Greens are no longer for the environment more like shoplifting trans activists if bussy boy has his way

Sometimes, your posts seem to signal that you want to be disliked. It's a bit sad, that.

Well, after reading his post, there are two possibilities...he's a troll, or, a sad, ignorant, deluded fool.

[heisenberg]

Sometimes, your posts seem to signal that you want to be disliked. It's a bit sad, that.

Well, after reading his post, there are two possibilities...he's a troll, or, a sad, ignorant, deluded fool.

Coming from you thats praise

[Oh_hunnihunni]

I don't think he's either.

I have been engaged with forums since 1998, on an every day basis. It's an addiction, lol, and I have learned so much in the process. Some really striking lessons, like honesty is really the only way to be online, no matter what it costs. Like we are all so much more alike than we are different. That we each have the most amazing stories behind us and in front of us. Like the way aggression and hate always backfires, and like we can say anything - literally anything at all, if we use the right words so people listen and hear us.

It is a magical world, the forum universe, we are very lucky to be part of it.

[zqwerty]

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[heisenberg]

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truth....you cant handle the truth

[zqwerty]

National type truth with a sprinkling of insisting on perfection like a distorted little tin pot god who wants to make any and all feel bad, a disturbed individual searching for a landing place but having not found it and believing that such a place exists in a real world persists in annoying all and sundry in the forlorn hope that someone will tell him the truth that he is looking for, or that he has missed up until now.

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One of the first things to recognize is that perfection is not possible in the real world and that the meaning of to be grown up is to know when something is at its optimum point and any further effort is a complete waste of time.  Sometimes that final possible point is well below what you can imagine would be possible but unfortunately that's just the way it is.

The next point is that things are always more complicated than you think they are and there are no simple answers most of the time.

Your oversimplification of everything is not cleverness it is stupidity.

Begone.

[Lilith7]

Jan though, in her post over in our ginormous Never Enough thread has a very good point about the process of pay equity claims and who benefits.  But rather than stymie existing and future claims in order to save potential billions, why didn't the government examine the process and make it better? Easier to use? More accessible to those who need it? Because paying all people decent earnings for work done is a good thing, right? No one wants labour ripped off, right? Our entire community benefits when work is rewarded properly and fairly, and the gap between rich and poor continues to shrink? Fair pay for everyone?

Right?

" why didn't the government examine the process and make it better?"


That'd be because they're a rightwing Neo Liberal party; therefore not in the business of makings better for most people. Just those who are wealthy or about to be wealthy...


God to a hungry child


"I didn’t make this world for you
You didn’t buy any stocks in my
railroad
You didn’t invest in my
Corporation
Where are your shares in Standard
Oil?
I made the world for the rich
And the will-be-rich
And the have-always-been-rich
Not for you
Hungry child."


Langston Hughes

[heisenberg]

National type truth with a sprinkling of insisting on perfection like a distorted little tin pot god who wants to make any and all feel bad, a disturbed individual searching for a landing place but having not found it and believing that such a place exists in a real world persists in annoying all and sundry in the forlorn hope that someone will tell him the truth that he is looking for, or that he has missed up until now.

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One of the first things to recognize is that perfection is not possible in the real world and that the meaning of to be grown up is to know when something is at its optimum point and any further effort is a complete waste of time.  Sometimes that final possible point is well below what you can imagine would be possible but unfortunately that's just the way it is.

The next point is that things are always more complicated than you think they are and there are no simple answers most of the time.

Your oversimplification of everything is not cleverness it is stupidity.

Begone.

begone.........lol..........i have no time for National and Luxon might as well be Ardern

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Responding is a choice.

You two both need to remember that.

As for Luxon being Ardern... Oh I wish, lol! And I have never voted Labour...

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Another really good piece on the pay equity debacle...

https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/36068...ZbS7-uXrIg

[heisenberg]

Another really good piece on the pay equity debacle...

https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/36068...ZbS7-uXrIg

oh yes a very balanced view, especially calling women c---s

[king1]

Another really good piece on the pay equity debacle...

https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/36068...ZbS7-uXrIg

oh yes a very balanced view, especially calling women c---s

read it again, that is not what was being said