Arderns chickens coming home to roost

[heisenberg]

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/5693...9-pandemic

[harm_less]

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/5693...9-pandemic

Jacinda Ardern was never the finance minister so your predictable copybook criticism of her is off target in regard to this report. Also the Treasury's report is nowhere the "damning" claim by Nicky No Boats. 

We can only hope that a government with the 'sell everything that isn't tied down and bugger the average NZer' as is the approach of the current coalition isn't at the wheel when the next pandemic (or natural disaster or global economic crash) comes our way. The results would be catastrophic in comparison to the lethality of our past COVID experience.

[king1]

The 20,000 or so New Zealanders still alive because of those measures might disagree - I'm good with it...

[Oh_hunnihunni]

How do we know in the middle of a national emergency, that we are spending too much? I would have thought that only with hind sight, and analysis could we be sure. And what if given those advantages, we discovered we'd spent too little...

Funny thing, but this all sounds way too much like that Brook van W comment she made at some international conference (where she was, all expenses paid, courtesy of the taxpayer) when she said we had over valued the lives we saved. Over valued human lives. Like mine.

Nice eh?

[heisenberg]

all i hear is excuses from the ardern labour fan club
ardern pissed off to america with her millions of dollars
robertson pissed off to otago uni with his 600k salary
hipkins left holding the baby while they sharpen the knives to backstab him

all this from a government that romped in virtually unopposed completely fucked things up then got the arse
and you lot want them back with the maori and lunatic greens lol what a joke

[king1]

they're not excuses, we just happen to believe she did OK under the circumstances... not perfect, some stuff could have been handled better with hindsight, but on the whole OK.

Others, (ie the minority who haven't been able to move on) still like to blame all that is wrong with the world and their lives on Ardern, and that is fine also, it is their right.

But the next election will be interesting - a choice between...
* the Nats who promised the moon and more and delivered an 0800 number for excessive road cone use, and made things worse than they already were.
* or Labour off the back of a caning for sure, but I suspect a lot of NZers might be starting to think they were royally screwed over by Nationals lies and broken promises. Grass isn't always greener so to speak.

as they say elections aren't won, they are lost...

[Lilith7]

How do we know in the middle of a national emergency, that we are spending too much? I would have thought that only with hind sight, and analysis could we be sure. And what if given those advantages, we discovered we'd spent too little...

Funny thing, but this all sounds way too much like that Brook van W comment she made at some international conference (where she was, all expenses paid, courtesy of the taxpayer) when she said we had over valued the lives we saved. Over valued human lives. Like mine.

Nice eh?

Lovely woman. Or something....


Nicola Willis commenting on excessive spending is a bit rich; perfectly OK  to make sure their 'donaters' are doing very nicely, anything else forget about it. 
And cut services & jobs to save money which can be pooled into those donaters...
ONE term govt...

[Praktica]

ardern pissed off to america with her millions of dollars

Really? Where did you hear that?

[heisenberg]

ardern pissed off to america with her millions of dollars

Really? Where did you hear that?

well shes in america with her millions of dollars and her rich mates............just the sort of person you leftards left despises

[king1]

Really? Where did you hear that?

well shes in america with her millions of dollars and her rich mates............just the sort of person you leftards left despises

is that not precisely the type of person you rightards start drooling over?  your carpet must be drenched by now...

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Ardern is working and earning but I guess that's a problem for some. As for her millions, she made her modest wealth the same way most middle class working people do in this country, a good salary, and a wise buy on the family home. If heisenberg thinks that's something to be frowned upon perhaps it says more about the critic than his target.

As is often the case with tall poppy syndrome. Especially when a successful woman is the focus of that angst.

[heisenberg]

Ardern is working and earning but I guess that's a problem for some. As for her millions, she made her modest wealth the same way most middle class working people do in this country, a good salary, and a wise buy on the family home. If heisenberg thinks that's something to be frowned upon perhaps it says more about the critic than his target.

As is often the case with tall poppy syndrome. Especially when a successful woman is the focus of that angst.

nothing to do with ardern being a woman more about being a narcissistic lying ****

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Yes it is. There are plenty of male politicians out there to spark your ire, but they feature only occasionally in your political critiques. Whereas Dame Jacinda is a regular.

Wake up heisenberg, a bit of self awareness goes a long way.

[king1]

what's up with your signature heisenberg? I'll need some new glasses to read that...

[Lilith7]

Yes it is. There are plenty of male politicians out there to spark your ire, but they feature only occasionally in your political critiques. Whereas Dame Jacinda is a regular.

Wake up heisenberg, a bit of self awareness goes a long way.

It's interesting, because as far as I recall there wasn't the same level of vitriol when Jenny Shiply was PM. There was certainly quite a bit of dislike but the really nasty misogyny didn't seem to  happen.

[king1]

Yes it is. There are plenty of male politicians out there to spark your ire, but they feature only occasionally in your political critiques. Whereas Dame Jacinda is a regular.

Wake up heisenberg, a bit of self awareness goes a long way.

It's interesting, because as far as I recall there wasn't the same level of vitriol when Jenny Shiply was PM. There was certainly quite a bit of dislike but the really nasty misogyny didn't seem to  happen.

we didn't really have such "well informed" internet users back then

[heisenberg]

Yes it is. There are plenty of male politicians out there to spark your ire, but they feature only occasionally in your political critiques. Whereas Dame Jacinda is a regular.

Wake up heisenberg, a bit of self awareness goes a long way.

i agree that fuckwit with the face scribbles is one

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Which one? Tama Iti used to wear that label, almost with pride. Now the man is in dire danger of full rehabilitation with his new career as artist and government advisor. Or do you mean Te Pati Maori's outspoken leadership?

Or are you just referring to those of us wearing wrinkles? As my nephew at age three said to my grandmother as he stroked her cheek - ' I love your scribbles...'

Interesting thing about those scribbles. They are well earned, and a privilege to wear.

[king1]

lol, we'll all get them eventually

[Lilith7]

lol, we'll all get them eventually

True that - & you don't get them for nothing,either.