Charlie Kirk Assassination

[harm_less]

His killing was not unexpected. His rhetoric served to put a huge target on his back and yesterday somebody took aim at it. 

With no suspect yet identified or apprehended it's difficult to judge what motives were actually involved but with the depth of political polarisation currently at play in the US possibilities are widespread. 

Perhaps a professional hit for political gain? It has taken the focus off of Epstein issue after all. 

A foreign actor is another aspect to consider. The likely aftermath of this may well be a destabilising influence on the US political landscape. 

Or it was just somebody with a high level of firearms skills that was fed up with the continual diatribe that was Charlie Kirk's MO.

A collection of his public statements...

[Lilith7]

His killing was not unexpected. His rhetoric served to put a huge target on his back and yesterday somebody took aim at it. 

With no suspect yet identified or apprehended it's difficult to judge what motives were actually involved but with the depth of political polarisation currently at play in the US possibilities are widespread. 

Perhaps a professional hit for political gain? It has taken the focus off of Epstein issue after all. 

A foreign actor is another aspect to consider. The likely aftermath of this may well be a destabilising influence on the US political landscape. 

Or it was just somebody with a high level of firearms skills that was fed up with the continual diatribe that was Charlie Kirk's MO.

A collection of his public statements...

I don't know much about him & obviously disagree with all those comments he made.

That said, to murder someone in front of his wife & child is beyond the pale.

[zqwerty]

Man arrested in Charlie Kirk’s killing had no known criminal history, had become ‘more political

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/sus...sts-views/

[Lilith7]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...uJPvKF7GRg


"He also lashed out at the gay community, denouncing what he called the “LGBTQ agenda,” expressing opposition to same-sex marriage and suggesting that the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, which endorses the execution of homosexuals, serves as “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.”

“I don’t agree with your lifestyle,” Kirk told a gay Wisconsin college student last September. “I don’t think you should introduce yourself just based on your sexuality because that’s not who you are.”

He also argued against gender-affirming care for transgender people and insisted there are only two genders, sporting a T-shirt at one Arizona rally last year that read: “xy = man.”

[Oh_hunnihunni]

And now the vultures gather, to make meat of the remains. I watch the media, and remember Melissa and her husband, and their dog, and the way no flags flew at half mast for their murders. The school children, shot in their classrooms, again, and again, and again...

But, funny thing, these assassins, white males, not immigrants, not trans, not lgbt, not women, not poor, not Muslim, not the target groups, but killers none the less.

Sick society spawning sick acts of violence.

I'm glad to be a New Zealander.

[harm_less]

The media coverage of this is going to be very interesting. The MAGA outrage claiming that an extreme left motivated assassin was to blame has now receded and calls for understanding towards him have replaced it. The spin that we will see from MSM will be next level.

The shooter is allegedly influenced by the Groypers movement which is even more right wing that Charlie Kirk was and considered Charlie as being too moderate. In a nation with the social angst that the US presently has this is going to not only throw the reaction to Kirk's death into high gear but also energise groups and individuals with these hateful ideologies into even more radical actions.

[heisenberg]

Sick society spawning sick acts of violence.

I'm glad to be a New Zealander.

dont think it wont happen here, just look at the hatred TPM spew


aaaaand apparently his roommate/partner was trans

[Praktica]

Sick society spawning sick acts of violence.

I'm glad to be a New Zealander.

dont think it wont happen here, just look at the hatred TPM spew


aaaaand apparently his roommate/partner was trans

The hatred I see online is from rightwing idiots like you...

[Agent_24]

aaaaand apparently his roommate/partner was trans

Don't huff all the copium at once, you'll run out...

[heisenberg]

dont think it wont happen here, just look at the hatred TPM spew


aaaaand apparently his roommate/partner was trans

The hatred I see online is from rightwing idiots like you...

the caring left at it again

[harm_less]

The hatred I see online is from rightwing idiots like you...

the caring left at it again

This left vs right tribalism would seem to be a bit redundant in this incident where the conflict appears to be between right and extreme right.

[Agent_24]

the caring left at it again

This left vs right tribalism would seem to be a bit redundant in this incident where the conflict appears to be between right and extreme right.

Well of course, but right-wingers like heisenberg can never admit they're wrong, so they have to fall back on any tenuous excuse they can possibly find (or just fabricate) to justify why it's someone else's fault.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Sick society spawning sick acts of violence.

I'm glad to be a New Zealander.

dont think it wont happen here, just look at the hatred TPM spew


aaaaand apparently his roommate/partner was trans

I follow a number of political opinionistas on Insta and have heard all the rumours about the gunman's background, some of them even more fantastical than that one. And while I often comment on the various threads that interest me I try to second think before I hit the button, there are an awful lot of folk who don't. And who need the kind of therapy they aren't getting online. Maybe that's what keeps me addicted, the madness out there that makes me look sane! 

Btw, one of those Insta posts suggests that Kirk became a multimillionaire in the space of ten years, from an initial income of 27K. And how? By selling hate filled messages to a willing market. That says something more about that market than it does about the salesman.

[heisenberg]

This left vs right tribalism would seem to be a bit redundant in this incident where the conflict appears to be between right and extreme right.

Well of course, but right-wingers like heisenberg can never admit they're wrong, so they have to fall back on any tenuous excuse they can possibly find (or just fabricate) to justify why it's someone else's fault.

right wingers......sure 

i have posted this before and was completely honest

   

[Agent_24]

Well of course, but right-wingers like heisenberg can never admit they're wrong, so they have to fall back on any tenuous excuse they can possibly find (or just fabricate) to justify why it's someone else's fault.

right wingers......sure 

i have posted this before and was completely honest

If that graph is supposed to indicate your personal stance, it's still right of center. What's your point?

[harm_less]

Well of course, but right-wingers like heisenberg can never admit they're wrong, so they have to fall back on any tenuous excuse they can possibly find (or just fabricate) to justify why it's someone else's fault.

right wingers......sure 

i have posted this before and was completely honest

And yet you continue to sling accusations at those of a left leaning/liberal persuasion and denigrate Te Pāti Māori ideologies. Seems like a disconnect, or lack of self-awareness?

[Oh_hunnihunni]

right wingers......sure 

i have posted this before and was completely honest

And yet you continue to sling accusations at those of a left leaning/liberal persuasion and denigrate Te Pāti Māori ideologies. Seems like a disconnect, or lack of self-awareness?

Or maybe a genuine opinion underpinning regular use of the wooden spoon?

This leftist feminist witch rather enjoys the opportunity to punch back when it presents itself. Especially here where we could be accused of being a little too much a community of like minds!

[heisenberg]

right wingers......sure 

i have posted this before and was completely honest

And yet you continue to sling accusations at those of a left leaning/liberal persuasion and denigrate Te Pāti Māori ideologies. Seems like a disconnect, or lack of self-awareness?

lol denigrate TPM, they doing a fine job without my help, i suspect if most of you took that test and were completely honest you would need another page to the left

[harm_less]

And yet you continue to sling accusations at those of a left leaning/liberal persuasion and denigrate Te Pāti Māori ideologies. Seems like a disconnect, or lack of self-awareness?

lol denigrate TPM, they doing a fine job without my help, i suspect if most of you took that test and were completely honest you would need another page to the left

I rest my case 

[heisenberg]

lol denigrate TPM, they doing a fine job without my help, i suspect if most of you took that test and were completely honest you would need another page to the left

I rest my case 

is that you perry mason?