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Nurses,teachers & others are set to strike this week, possibly the biggest labour action in moe than 40 years. Its due to wages,working conditions being persistently ignored by this govt.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/575...ed-to-know
And the govt is not best pleased, & trying to paint it as 'manipulative' & claiming that it's all the fault of 'Unions priortising politics over patients'...so, nothing at all to do with this govt prioritising profit for themselves & other wealthy people over the needs of ordinary people,then....
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/575...ike-action
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Millions to landlords, millions to the tobacco industry, legislation changed to benefit fossil fuel companies, kowtowing to international crooks, billions to war material suppliers for our defence forces, but the very people lauded as essential workers during the lockdowns get called out for asking for support as the economy crashes around us.
Dispicable government. One term tossers.
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(Yesterday, 11:01 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Millions to landlords, millions to the tobacco industry, legislation changed to benefit fossil fuel companies, kowtowing to international crooks, billions to war material suppliers for our defence forces, but the very people lauded as essential workers during the lockdowns get called out for asking for support as the economy crashes around us.
Dispicable government. One term tossers.
ah yes the old millions to landlords
you either treat rental houses as a business or you dont
Businesses pay tax and can deduct expenses like interest etc
defence spending why bother a few airliners full of troops would take over the country in a day
didnt nurses and teachers strike when comrade ardern was in dictatorship ?
one term government ..well lets see
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(Yesterday, 01:01 PM)heisenberg Wrote: (Yesterday, 11:01 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Millions to landlords, millions to the tobacco industry, legislation changed to benefit fossil fuel companies, kowtowing to international crooks, billions to war material suppliers for our defence forces, but the very people lauded as essential workers during the lockdowns get called out for asking for support as the economy crashes around us.
Dispicable government. One term tossers.
ah yes the old millions to landlords
you either treat rental houses as a business or you dont
Businesses pay tax and can deduct expenses like interest etc
defence spending why bother a few airliners full of troops would take over the country in a day
didnt nurses and teachers strike when comrade ardern was in dictatorship ?
one term government ..well lets see
social housing should not be treated as a business should it H? unless you like seeing the sidewalks crowded with the homeless I guess
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(Yesterday, 01:40 PM)king1 Wrote: (Yesterday, 01:01 PM)heisenberg Wrote: ah yes the old millions to landlords
you either treat rental houses as a business or you dont
Businesses pay tax and can deduct expenses like interest etc
defence spending why bother a few airliners full of troops would take over the country in a day
didnt nurses and teachers strike when comrade ardern was in dictatorship ?
one term government ..well lets see
social housing should not be treated as a business should it H? unless you like seeing the sidewalks crowded with the homeless I guess
not all rentals are social housing
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(Yesterday, 11:01 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Millions to landlords, millions to the tobacco industry, legislation changed to benefit fossil fuel companies, kowtowing to international crooks, billions to war material suppliers for our defence forces, but the very people lauded as essential workers during the lockdowns get called out for asking for support as the economy crashes around us.
Dispicable government. One term tossers.
They certainly deserve it. The only concern is that they're realised that & are now hell bent on doing as much damage & wreaking as much havoc as they can.
These are not good people.
(Yesterday, 01:01 PM)heisenberg Wrote: (Yesterday, 11:01 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Millions to landlords, millions to the tobacco industry, legislation changed to benefit fossil fuel companies, kowtowing to international crooks, billions to war material suppliers for our defence forces, but the very people lauded as essential workers during the lockdowns get called out for asking for support as the economy crashes around us.
Dispicable government. One term tossers.
ah yes the old millions to landlords
you either treat rental houses as a business or you dont
Businesses pay tax and can deduct expenses like interest etc
defence spending why bother a few airliners full of troops would take over the country in a day
didnt nurses and teachers strike when comrade ardern was in dictatorship ?
one term government ..well lets see
You either allow people to be housed, or you don't.
And if you knowingly & deliberately don't, then that makes those doing so greedy, unfeeling people, lacking in empathy.
Our health system is deliberately being wrecked, very likely in order to privatise it. So that some can make a massive amount of money.
From other people's suffering.
Which says everything about this govt. Some of whom claim to be Chrstians...
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(Yesterday, 02:40 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: (Yesterday, 11:01 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Millions to landlords, millions to the tobacco industry, legislation changed to benefit fossil fuel companies, kowtowing to international crooks, billions to war material suppliers for our defence forces, but the very people lauded as essential workers during the lockdowns get called out for asking for support as the economy crashes around us.
Dispicable government. One term tossers.
They certainly deserve it. The only concern is that they're realised that & are now hell bent on doing as much damage & wreaking as much havoc as they can.
These are not good people.
(Yesterday, 01:01 PM)heisenberg Wrote: ah yes the old millions to landlords
you either treat rental houses as a business or you dont
Businesses pay tax and can deduct expenses like interest etc
defence spending why bother a few airliners full of troops would take over the country in a day
didnt nurses and teachers strike when comrade ardern was in dictatorship ?
one term government ..well lets see
You either allow people to be housed, or you don't.
And if you knowingly & deliberately don't, then that makes those doing so greedy, unfeeling people, lacking in empathy.
Our health system is deliberately being wrecked, very likely in order to privatise it. So that some can make a massive amount of money.
From other people's suffering.
Which says everything about this govt. Some of whom claim to be Chrstians... 
sure.....massive chip on your shoulder you have
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(Yesterday, 03:00 PM)heisenberg Wrote: (Yesterday, 02:40 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: They certainly deserve it. The only concern is that they're realised that & are now hell bent on doing as much damage & wreaking as much havoc as they can.
These are not good people.
You either allow people to be housed, or you don't.
And if you knowingly & deliberately don't, then that makes those doing so greedy, unfeeling people, lacking in empathy.
Our health system is deliberately being wrecked, very likely in order to privatise it. So that some can make a massive amount of money.
From other people's suffering.
Which says everything about this govt. Some of whom claim to be Chrstians... 
sure.....massive chip on your shoulder you have
Some of us are just a bit odd like that, we don't much like greed.
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(Yesterday, 03:00 PM)heisenberg Wrote: (Yesterday, 02:40 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: They certainly deserve it. The only concern is that they're realised that & are now hell bent on doing as much damage & wreaking as much havoc as they can.
These are not good people.
You either allow people to be housed, or you don't.
And if you knowingly & deliberately don't, then that makes those doing so greedy, unfeeling people, lacking in empathy.
Our health system is deliberately being wrecked, very likely in order to privatise it. So that some can make a massive amount of money.
From other people's suffering.
Which says everything about this govt. Some of whom claim to be Chrstians... 
sure.....massive chip on your shoulder you have Why do you say that H?
IF (i'm dubious) lilith has a chip on her shoulder, it is infinitesimally tiny compared to the cavernous chip you appear to be toting around
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(Yesterday, 01:01 PM)heisenberg Wrote: (Yesterday, 11:01 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Millions to landlords, millions to the tobacco industry, legislation changed to benefit fossil fuel companies, kowtowing to international crooks, billions to war material suppliers for our defence forces, but the very people lauded as essential workers during the lockdowns get called out for asking for support as the economy crashes around us.
Dispicable government. One term tossers.
ah yes the old millions to landlords
you either treat rental houses as a business or you dont
Businesses pay tax and can deduct expenses like interest etc
defence spending why bother a few airliners full of troops would take over the country in a day
didnt nurses and teachers strike when comrade ardern was in dictatorship ?
one term government ..well lets see
As a business for sure. Not a licence to print money heisenberg. No good business kills its own market with repeated price rises.
Most landlords are not business people.
Sorry, I was wrong. About the millions to landlords thing.
It was billions in tax cuts.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DQAreIsEiGx/..._copy_link
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(Yesterday, 03:05 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: (Yesterday, 03:00 PM)heisenberg Wrote: sure.....massive chip on your shoulder you have
Some of us are just a bit odd like that, we don't much like greed.  How many of your spare homes do you rent for charity ? Landlords will simply invest in other earners should the government force homeowners to finance social housing . Dont we already finance social welfare ? Where does it end ? Universal income lol? Yeah .....nah ...
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(Yesterday, 03:05 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: (Yesterday, 03:00 PM)heisenberg Wrote: sure.....massive chip on your shoulder you have
Some of us are just a bit odd like that, we don't much like greed. 
like those teachers, doctors and nurses eh
greedy bastards wanting more filthy money
i wonder how many teachers doctors and nurses own rental properties ...should they get a pay rise as well?
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(6 hours ago)heisenberg Wrote: (Yesterday, 03:05 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: Some of us are just a bit odd like that, we don't much like greed. 
like those teachers, doctors and nurses eh
greedy bastards wanting more filthy money
i wonder how many teachers doctors and nurses own rental properties ...should they get a pay rise as well? maybe a better question is how many of those teachers doctors and nurses will head overseas and earn twice as much as they do here
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(3 hours ago)king1 Wrote: (6 hours ago)heisenberg Wrote: like those teachers, doctors and nurses eh
greedy bastards wanting more filthy money
i wonder how many teachers doctors and nurses own rental properties ...should they get a pay rise as well? maybe a better question is how many of those teachers doctors and nurses will head overseas and earn twice as much as they do here
they are going anyway just like they did under labour
you all want people paid more, wheres the money coming from
tell me how many rich pricks arnt paying their share
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(3 hours ago)heisenberg Wrote: (3 hours ago)king1 Wrote: maybe a better question is how many of those teachers doctors and nurses will head overseas and earn twice as much as they do here
they are going anyway just like they did under labour
you all want people paid more, wheres the money coming from
tell me how many rich pricks arnt paying their share
National could have used the tax from tobacco companies, if they hadn't cut it back by $216 million!
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(3 hours ago)Agent_24 Wrote: (3 hours ago)heisenberg Wrote: they are going anyway just like they did under labour
you all want people paid more, wheres the money coming from
tell me how many rich pricks arnt paying their share
National could have used the tax from tobacco companies, if they hadn't cut it back by $216 million!
or some of the 500 odd million cost of cancelling the irex ferries
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(2 hours ago)king1 Wrote: (3 hours ago)Agent_24 Wrote: National could have used the tax from tobacco companies, if they hadn't cut it back by $216 million!
or some of the 500 odd million cost of cancelling the irex ferries
500 million was peanuts compared to the billions needed for the on shore work because labour signed up for the wrong boats
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(Yesterday, 09:26 PM)Alice Wrote: (Yesterday, 03:05 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: Some of us are just a bit odd like that, we don't much like greed.  How many of your spare homes do you rent for charity ? Landlords will simply invest in other earners should the government force homeowners to finance social housing . Dont we already finance social welfare ? Where does it end ? Universal income lol? Yeah .....nah ...
Why not a Universal Income? We will have to do something if the predicted machine intelligence era comes to pass, some say in less that five years. A UBI has and is being trialled in other countries right now and it might surprise you to know the results seem to indicate very few downsides to putting it in place. It even seems to boost economies without too many other changes.
I know it is hard to put ourselves in other people's shoes, but in my experience that gets a lot easier as we age, and actually get clobbered by a few real life events. So long as we don't fall into the 'why me' victimhood trap that is and start looking for someone else to blame
And the reality is we do not need billionaires. We need doctors and teachers and nurses and plumbers and electricians. Wealth doesn't bring happiness, it actually breaks and destroys. Musk and Trump et al are perfect examples. Money isn't the key to happiness, people are...
(1 hour ago)heisenberg Wrote: (2 hours ago)king1 Wrote: or some of the 500 odd million cost of cancelling the irex ferries
500 million was peanuts compared to the billions needed for the on shore work because labour signed up for the wrong boats
In whose opinion?
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