Here's a look at energy, the economy, and the future

[Praktica]

Which I found very interesting. It's from a US perspective, but still applies to us.

https://by-my-solitary-hearth.net/2025/1...ober-2025/

[Oh_hunnihunni]

I was just reading about how the next decade will see huge changes in everything in the human world, thanks to the ongoing development of ai.

It kind of makes ordinary concerns like the price of tea bags and the energy it takes to use them fade into insignificance.

A bit scary, to be honest.

https://www.tyla.com/news/ray-kurzweil-p...3-20251021

[Lilith7]

Quite glad that I'm unlikely to be around for several more decades, but I fear for the future generations.

[zqwerty]

The problem is over population and mismanagement, 2025 contingent has the solution and they are in the process of implementing it.

Amounts to gathering existing wealth by hook or by crook, cf Trump, and giving up management of the unsustainable economies that exist now and a lot of heartache and tears for the population which they, the billionaires, 1%'ers, don't care about because they are safe and provided for in their refuges, cf Peter Thiel et al.

[Praktica]

No refuge will be safe. Markets will collapse, because most will have no money to spend. Profits will disappear, loans will be defaulted. Where will those hiding in refuges get the necessaries of life? Money will mean nothing. Those who have prepared their communities will survive, but their life will be nothing like ours.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Well, Thiel has made no secret of his opinion that a severely lowered human population is a good idea. Earth for the wealthy, with sufficient minions to serve their needs.

[zqwerty]

The refuges are hill top farms in Central Otago around Queenstown, farms with animals, chickens, sheep, cows for milk, underground bunkers with living quarters, underground fuel supplies, petrol and diesel, spares for 4wheel drive vehicles, and anything else you would need for say 6 months including a small private army. Helicopter to fly out and scout the area.

These people have plenty of money, millions is peanuts for them they are multi-billionaires.

[Lilith7]

Well, Thiel has made no secret of his opinion that a severely lowered human population is a good idea. Earth for the wealthy, with sufficient minions to serve their needs.

Has that fool never heard of Russia? France?

As in the Russian revolution & the Franch revolution? 

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The refuges are hill top farms in Central Otago around Queenstown, farms with animals, chickens, sheep, cows for milk, underground bunkers with living quarters, underground fuel supplies, petrol and diesel, spares for 4wheel drive vehicles, and anything else you would need for say 6 months including a small private army.  Helicopter to fly out and scout the area.

These people have plenty of money, millions is peanuts for them they are multi-billionaires.

Yeah, everything they could possibly want...


Until their minions have had enough & turn on them.

[heisenberg]

tin foil hats all round

[Praktica]

Well - I can see you're wearing one, heisenberg. I prefer to live in the real world, myself.

[zqwerty]

As usual heisenberg is commenting on things he is uninformed and misinformed on or just plain ignorant. Bet he doesn't even know what 2025 is or who Peter Thiel is and his relationship to NZ.

[harm_less]

Which I found very interesting. It's from a US perspective, but still applies to us.

https://by-my-solitary-hearth.net/2025/1...ober-2025/

Having now read the entire article it is interesting to look at the situation we now face as a result of the fallout of having passed peak demand rather than peak resources (oil). Economic solutions often seem counterintuitive as human nature, business structuring and environmental factors are inflicted on pure economic theory. And then add the 'red hat/blue hat' divide and conquer approach of current day politics.

The book The Price is Wrong describes the reasons for renewable energy struggling to advance despite being potentially the cheapest energy source available, until corporate systems and other conflicting aspects are factored in. The book approaches the issue on a similar reasoning basis as the linked article does.