(29-01-2022, 11:08 AM)Lucy Wrote: There was something they were selling in plastic bags animal key rings or mobile phone charms turtle. lizard and i saw a goldfish the bowl is like an ocean compared with the tiny plastic bag it cant turn around in got some oxygen crystal in it and food to keep it alive but usually dies in a few weeks the cost of a burger call them a kids toy. saw it on the internet, its a bit sickening if you look at anything they do to animals just make sure pet shops dont stock little bowls and educate people.
That really is awful. That's the kind of thing that really should be banned. Hopefully they found no market and stopped doing it.
(29-01-2022, 08:06 AM)Magoo Wrote: perhaps the measure should not be the size of the bowl, but the amount of water per fish?
if you want to keep fish in your bathtub then go hard.
i was told those bettas can live in a dirty puddle which seems doable. a dirty puddle the size of a saucer maybe not.
am i allowed to say that we used to lip hook goldfish to use as live bait for monster bass in California?
you can buy goldfish in bait shops.
Same as using kahawai for live bait for kingfish here. I used to feel uncomfortable about it, but have seen that the fish don't seem unduly stressed apart from the limitation of not being able to swim away. And they either get eaten instantly or let go at the end of the day.
And yes, the air breathers can live in a dirty puddle in the wild. They developed that survival strategy in places where there is a great variation in water flow so in good times they thrive, and in bad times when it all nearly dries up they survive.
(29-01-2022, 06:24 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Thing is we humans have bred these fish for their aggression, and their finnage, so we have created our own problem. Then to top that cruelty off we force them to live in tiny blank places so they can be sold off to make a profit for the sellers. So along comes an ignorant buyer who thinks 'pretty', buys one, sticks it in a small container with a plant in the top - because that's what they saw on Pinterest, and the fish either goes mad or gets sick and dies.
But hey, it was pretty for a while. And it is only a fish after all. They don't feel anything do they?
Not as if they are alive...
Grrrrrrrrrr...
We breed them for finnage but the male fighting is their natural behaviour. The difference is that in the wild the subordiante fish can swim away. In a fish tank it's stuck with the aggressor so it has to be no more than one male to a tank. There are other fish like that too, especially if they want to breed. The pet shops should make sure buyers understand what the fish need, and I think they do. I don't often need to go in these days, but when I do, the assistant will usually start a conversation "have you had fish before...?" which is them making sure I know what I'm doing and is good.