What will it take?

[Oh_hunnihunni]

I don't get the mandate objection. We have heaps of mandates in our community, do they want freedom from those too?

What part of experimental and longitudinal studies do you need to be explained?

Tell you what, you list your qualifications that suggest you are in a position to explain those, and I'll list mine.

Pissing contests are always fun.

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What part of experimental and longitudinal studies do you need to be explained?

well I would counter that with - which part of people dying do you need to be explained?

From someone self described as a serf?  I doubt they look beyond their own two feet.

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I don't get the mandate objection. We have heaps of mandates in our community, do they want freedom from those too?

I think  the insurrection has gone far beyond the point where we can look for rationality.   There are so many outside forces in play, the various insurrectionist tribes are at odds with one another, the nutcases are increasing.   The latest nutcase to arrive is Richard Sivell, a self-professed Nazi who encourages hangings.

Tantrums by toddler brains.

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We wear helmets when riding a bike or motorbike, seat belts when in a car, we look before crossing the street & we try to avoid touching live wires & naked flames.
Because those things can do us harm, or even kill us so being careful, taking precautions to stay safe makes sense. Just as, if visiting a foreign country we might first get the relevant injections to avoid picking up a disease, we also get ourselves & our children vaccinated against various things.

Because it makes good sense to keep ourselves & our whanau as safe as is possible, & that is why so many have chosen to get the vaccination, to be double jabbed, to get the booster.
Because it makes sense & we don't want to become ill & perhaps pass it on to someone who has health problems, or who is too young to be vaccinated.

It has to be mandated, because some jobs involve being with large or small groups of people; those are the people who must have the vaccination or who must run the risk of becoming ill & infecting others.

And for some that has to mean losing their job, if they genuinely cannot comprehend the why of vaccination.

A choice is still a choice, even when some of those options available are unpleasant.

Life can be like that.