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Would you want to live forever?
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While the search continues for the cure for death, I wonder if any of us really would want to live for ever. So, would you?
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#2
I've heard from a number of elderly relatives that as they progress through their 80s and 90s they have difficulties in that they become increasingly lonely as their lifelong friends, partners and other people they have lived their lives with pass away. Even if one retains a reasonable state of health and quality of life the realities of continuing beyond your personal circle of familiarity does detract from the enjoyment of life.

So, unless the immortality extends to those you hold dear, which would obviously present overpopulation problems well beyond those we currently have, I would be a no vote on that idea.

The movie 'Mr Nobody' is a great and thought provoking watch along the lines of immortality: https://www.imdb.com/video/vi23832857/?p...t_pr_ov_vi
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(21-10-2022, 08:31 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: While the search continues for the cure for death, I wonder if any of us really would want to live for ever. So, would you?

Not now that Earth is in its death throes.
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(21-10-2022, 09:31 AM)Olive Wrote:
(21-10-2022, 08:31 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: While the search continues for the cure for death, I wonder if any of us really would want to live for ever. So, would you?

Not now that Earth is in its death throes.

The planet isn't, but humanity might well be...
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#5
It surely depends - on what sort of physical & mental condition you'd be in, & whether or not everyone else would also live forever.
If they would then we'd have a huge problem, since we've mucked up the planet to such an extent & presumably, people would want to continue having children while they're young.

We're overpopulated now so that could mean moving to other planets if any were found. Which we may or may not have the sense to muck up.

If no one else was likely to live forever, & if we live forever but with the problems & limitations of age, I certainly wouldn't want to live forever & I doubt many would be happy to, either.
And then of course, there's the wanting to find out what comes next, if anything.
And if the holy roller christians have it right, then some of us will be in big trouble...
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
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(21-10-2022, 08:31 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: While the search continues for the cure for death, I wonder if any of us really would want to live for ever. So, would you?

Totally would want to live forever!
Looks like there has been great progress in anti-aging research too.

Just do a google on NMN and NR and the research Dr Sinclair has made.
He is in his 50s but looks like he is 30. You can see the experiments he has done with mice too.
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#7
Why would you want to?
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#8
So I could say - ''I told you so !'' But the buggers would all be dead.
In and out of jobs, running free
Waging war with society
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(22-10-2022, 01:02 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote:
(21-10-2022, 08:31 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: While the search continues for the cure for death, I wonder if any of us really would want to live for ever. So, would you?

Totally would want to live forever!
Looks like there has been great progress in anti-aging research too.

Just do a google on NMN and NR and the research Dr Sinclair has made.
He is in his 50s but looks like he is 30. You can see the experiments he has done with mice too.
How about you post links to the relevant web content seeing as you've found it. Not interested in sifting through screeds of bollocks on the internet.
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(22-10-2022, 04:08 PM)Zurdo Wrote: So I could say - ''I told you so !''  But the buggers would all be dead.
Except, why miss out on whatever comes next?
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(22-10-2022, 06:29 PM)harm_less Wrote:
(22-10-2022, 01:02 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote: Totally would want to live forever!
Looks like there has been great progress in anti-aging research too.

Just do a google on NMN and NR and the research Dr Sinclair has made.
He is in his 50s but looks like he is 30. You can see the experiments he has done with mice too.
How about you post links to the relevant web content seeing as you've found it. Not interested in sifting through screeds of bollocks on the internet.

This is his profile:
https://sinclair.hms.harvard.edu/people/david-sinclair

2 hour long interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9IxomBusuw

And lots of the supplements he takes are easily available, he takes a much higher dose than is on the bottle typically.
https://novoslabs.com/best-anti-aging-su...air-takes/

Mice experiments.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/02/healt...index.html
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(23-10-2022, 10:47 AM)C_T_Russell Wrote:
(22-10-2022, 06:29 PM)harm_less Wrote: How about you post links to the relevant web content seeing as you've found it. Not interested in sifting through screeds of bollocks on the internet.

This is his profile:
https://sinclair.hms.harvard.edu/people/david-sinclair

2 hour long interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9IxomBusuw

And lots of the supplements he takes are easily available, he takes a much higher dose than is on the bottle typically.
https://novoslabs.com/best-anti-aging-su...air-takes/

Mice experiments.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/02/healt...index.html

CT, I have a friend who has had high blood pressure, and insulin dependent diabetes for fifty years. Recently she has lost a great deal of weight and surprise surprise her blood sugars are normal and stable, and her blood pressure is also stable and normal for the first time in ages. One might say that she is cured, except for the fact her weight loss is down to late stage terminal liver cancer.

So far, no one has beaten death for much beyond the century. And the reality is, extending life comes at the wrong point - at the uncomfortable end, rather than the pleasurable middle. Until they beat that, all the supplements in the world are just expensive pee...
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(23-10-2022, 01:23 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote:
(23-10-2022, 10:47 AM)C_T_Russell Wrote: This is his profile:
https://sinclair.hms.harvard.edu/people/david-sinclair

2 hour long interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9IxomBusuw

And lots of the supplements he takes are easily available, he takes a much higher dose than is on the bottle typically.
https://novoslabs.com/best-anti-aging-su...air-takes/

Mice experiments.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/02/healt...index.html

CT, I have a friend who has had high blood pressure, and insulin dependent diabetes for fifty years. Recently she has lost a great deal of weight and surprise surprise her blood sugars are normal and stable, and her blood pressure is also stable and normal for the first time in ages. One might say that she is cured, except for the fact her weight loss is down to late stage terminal liver cancer.

So far, no one has beaten death for much beyond the century. And the reality is, extending life comes at the wrong point - at the uncomfortable end, rather than the pleasurable middle. Until they beat that, all the supplements in the world are just expensive pee...

There are already experts saying that the first person to live to 300 years has been already born!
This is taking into account future developments in technology im assuming, but sinclairs research is making good progress.
I should add that much of this research is likely adding quality of life, e.g prevention of de-generative diseases, so in turn will extend life.
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(25-10-2022, 12:58 PM)C_T_Russell Wrote:
(23-10-2022, 01:23 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: CT, I have a friend who has had high blood pressure, and insulin dependent diabetes for fifty years. Recently she has lost a great deal of weight and surprise surprise her blood sugars are normal and stable, and her blood pressure is also stable and normal for the first time in ages. One might say that she is cured, except for the fact her weight loss is down to late stage terminal liver cancer.

So far, no one has beaten death for much beyond the century. And the reality is, extending life comes at the wrong point - at the uncomfortable end, rather than the pleasurable middle. Until they beat that, all the supplements in the world are just expensive pee...

There are already experts saying that the first person to live to 300 years has been already born!
This is taking into account future developments in technology im assuming, but sinclairs research is making good progress.
I should add that much of this research is likely adding quality of life, e.g prevention of de-generative diseases, so in turn will extend life.

Yeah...somehow, I think they may be overlooking a few things. Putin, idiots with access to massively destructive weapons, the massive imbalance between  the rich & poor & human nature in general.

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#15
A good movie on the subject

This world would be a perfect place if it wasn't for the people.

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#16
Plus it will only be available to the few. And that lot are already privileged quite enough...
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(25-10-2022, 04:52 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Plus it will only be available to the few. And that lot are already privileged quite enough...

Indeed they are. And too much wealth & privilege for one small group generally ends in a very similar way.

 The rattle of tumbrils over cobblestones isn't something any of us should ever want, but unless there are changes it may all end badly.



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"But let’s speak frankly to each other. I’m not the smartest guy you’ve ever met, or the hardest-working. I was a mediocre student. I’m not technical at all—I can’t write a word of code. What sets me apart, I think, is a tolerance for risk and an intuition about what will happen in the future. Seeing where things are headed is the essence of entrepreneurship. And what do I see in our future now?
I see pitchforks.

At the same time that people like you and me are thriving beyond the dreams of any plutocrats in history, the rest of the country—the 99.99 percent—is lagging far behind. The divide between the haves and have-nots is getting worse really, really fast. In 1980, the top 1 percent controlled about 8 percent of U.S. national income. The bottom 50 percent shared about 18 percent. Today the top 1 percent share about 20 percent; the bottom 50 percent, just 12 percent.
But the problem isn’t that we have inequality. Some inequality is intrinsic to any high-functioning capitalist economy. The problem is that inequality is at historically high levels and getting worse every day.


Our country is rapidly becoming less a capitalist society and more a feudal society. Unless our policies change dramatically, the middle class will disappear, and we will be back to late 18th-century France. Before the revolution.
And so I have a message for my fellow filthy rich, for all of us who live in our gated bubble worlds: Wake up, people. It won’t last.

If we don’t do something to fix the glaring inequities in this economy, the pitchforks are going to come for us. No society can sustain this kind of rising inequality. In fact, there is no example in human history where wealth accumulated like this and the pitchforks didn’t eventually come out. You show me a highly unequal society, and I will show you a police state. Or an uprising. There are no counterexamples. None. It’s not if, it’s when.


The most ironic thing about rising inequality is how completely unnecessary and self-defeating it is. If we do something about it, if we adjust our policies in the way that, say, Franklin D. Roosevelt did during the Great Depression—so that we help the 99 percent and preempt the revolutionaries and crazies, the ones with the pitchforks—that will be the best thing possible for us rich folks, too. It’s not just that we’ll escape with our lives; it’s that we’ll most certainly get even richer."
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
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#18
I would love to live forever until I got sick of it, and as long as my heart, bad back and other aches and pains could be taken away, I would also like my family to be able to make the choice of how long they wanted to live, with me being a sci-fi fan I would love to see what the future hold, but alas it wont happen in my lifetime sad to say  Cry
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#19
See, this is why I look forward to seeing it. In my next life. After all, I am not perfect yet. I need more lives to work on getting better...
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(25-10-2022, 07:04 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: See, this is why I look forward to seeing it. In my next life. After all, I am not perfect yet. I need more lives to work on getting better...

Sorry to say this is NOT a dress rehearsal, its a one time only offer  Undecided
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