Prisoners may get time off for donating organs

[Lilith7]

Grotesque idea - while there are some benefits to this, its  far too open to abuse.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023...-donations

"If it passes into law, then the “program shall allow eligible incarcerated individuals to gain not less than 60 and not more than 365 day reduction in the length of their committed sentence”. Along with the new program, a committee would be established composed of five members responsible for overseeing the scheme. The committee would also decide on eligibility standards for incarcerated individuals interested in the program and “the amount of bone marrow and organ(s) donated to earn one’s sentence to be commuted”.

Currently, the US Federal Bureau of Prisons allows organ donations by inmates only if the recipient is a member of their immediate family, but many state prisons, including those in Massachusetts, have no pathway to organ or bone marrow donation."

[Oldfellah]

No good donating an organ to me, I cant even play the piano 

[Lilith7]

No good donating an organ to me, I cant even play the piano 

Me neither - I did once have a go at violin though. Didn't last, no doubt to the relief of all concerned...

[Oh_hunnihunni]

I donated a hip. I like the metal one much better. And heaps of blood over the years. 

I wonder if they'd give me a backdated credit...

[king1]

I'd need at least five years off to part with any of my organs - one year off hardly seems worth it...

[zqwerty]

Some Government Morals and Ethics Committee should be looking at this, the American influence again I bet.

Grotesque is the word.

[Oldfellah]

Im waiting for an Aorta heart valve, its an organ but its either a cow or pigs one not human oh joy.

[Lilith7]

Some Government Morals and Ethics Committee should be looking at this, the American influence again I bet.

Grotesque is the word.

Yep, it certainly bears looking into; it could be given all kinds of twists & turns at some future point that perhaps no one's considered yet.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Im waiting for an Aorta heart valve, its an organ but its either a cow or pigs one not human oh joy.

If we made one small change to our laws around organ donations - making it an opt out situation rather than an opt in one, we might save a vast amount of very useful human transplant material going to waste.

That and a massive shift in our socio cultural approach to the subject.

[Kenj]

But then, isn't the world overpopulated? Nature is trying to work things out and we keep foiling it by living longer, creating life, repairing worn out old people et al?

Ken

[zqwerty]

If you are here you should try to stay on for as long as possible, your knowledge and experience may be useful to younger generations.

What needs to stop is the large families of more than 3 children.

[Oldfellah]

If you are here you should try to stay on for as long as possible, your knowledge and experience may be useful to younger generations.

What needs to stop is the large families of more than 3 children.

To have that happen you will have to have use contraception or tell people to stop having sex, no one will take any notice of either one.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Nah. We just line up all adolescent males and give them a nice quick vasectomy and set them loose. It's a scheme modeled on that pest control stategy where they render all the male moths infertile but still able and within a generation population figures start to drop...

Of course, human beings aren't moths and we need to replenish worker generations in order to support us incredibly valuable boomers, so, those adolescent males may be able to bank sperm for future use, to be released on presentation of a signed and certified letter of authority from the financially secure and parenting trained female partner of the sperm donor. Of course we'll need full genetic screening to make sure future generations are mild mannered, non aggressive, good looking, and free from bad habits, along with a range of other desirable traits.

Ahh yes, when I am Queen of the World...

[Lilith7]

Im waiting for an Aorta heart valve, its an organ but its either a cow or pigs one not human oh joy.

If we made one small change to our laws around organ donations - making it an opt out situation rather than an opt in one, we might save a vast amount of very useful human transplant material going to waste.

That and a massive shift in our socio cultural approach to the subject.

Yep, agree. I'd really like to see that happen here. Its just the ultimate recycling, really & makes good sense.

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Nah. We just line up all adolescent males and give them a nice quick vasectomy and set them loose. It's a scheme modeled on that pest control stategy where they render all the male moths infertile but still able and within a generation population figures start to drop...

Of course, human beings aren't moths and we need to replenish worker generations in order to support us incredibly valuable boomers, so, those adolescent males may be able to bank sperm for future use, to be released on presentation of a signed and certified letter of authority from the financially secure and parenting trained female partner of the sperm donor. Of course we'll need full genetic screening to make sure future generations are mild mannered, non aggressive, good looking, and free from bad habits, along with a range of other desirable traits.

Ahh yes, when I am Queen of the World...

I've been saying as much for years - give males the option of a reversible vasectomy on approaching puberty, to be reversed when they mature & want to start a family. And yes, freezing sperm would also work well just in case the vasectomy can't be reversed at a later stage.

And I do like the rest of it too - an end to violence & aggression wouldn't be a bad move, particularly if adopted by every country at the same time. No more sending young men out to kill & maim each other, no more glorifying war...
It just seems common sense  - yet its invariably seen as being radical, fgs.

[Oldfellah]

If we made one small change to our laws around organ donations - making it an opt out situation rather than an opt in one, we might save a vast amount of very useful human transplant material going to waste.

That and a massive shift in our socio cultural approach to the subject.

Yep, agree. I'd really like to see that happen here. Its just the ultimate recycling, really & makes good sense.

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Nah. We just line up all adolescent males and give them a nice quick vasectomy and set them loose. It's a scheme modeled on that pest control stategy where they render all the male moths infertile but still able and within a generation population figures start to drop...

Of course, human beings aren't moths and we need to replenish worker generations in order to support us incredibly valuable boomers, so, those adolescent males may be able to bank sperm for future use, to be released on presentation of a signed and certified letter of authority from the financially secure and parenting trained female partner of the sperm donor. Of course we'll need full genetic screening to make sure future generations are mild mannered, non aggressive, good looking, and free from bad habits, along with a range of other desirable traits.

Ahh yes, when I am Queen of the World...

I've been saying as much for years - give males the option of a reversible vasectomy on approaching puberty, to be reversed when they mature & want to start a family. And yes, freezing sperm would also work well just in case the vasectomy can't be reversed at a later stage.

And I do like the rest of it too - an end to violence & aggression wouldn't be a bad move, particularly if adopted by every country at the same time. No more sending young men out to kill & maim each other, no more glorifying war...
It just seems common sense  - yet its invariably seen as being radical, fgs.

And your answer to this problem is why women will never rule the world lol

[Lilith7]

Yep, agree. I'd really like to see that happen here. Its just the ultimate recycling, really & makes good sense.

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I've been saying as much for years - give males the option of a reversible vasectomy on approaching puberty, to be reversed when they mature & want to start a family. And yes, freezing sperm would also work well just in case the vasectomy can't be reversed at a later stage.

And I do like the rest of it too - an end to violence & aggression wouldn't be a bad move, particularly if adopted by every country at the same time. No more sending young men out to kill & maim each other, no more glorifying war...
It just seems common sense  - yet its invariably seen as being radical, fgs.

And your answer to this problem is why women will never rule the world lol

Its never a good idea to count chickens before they're hatched...