International COVID Summit

[harm_less]

Why isn't this event being reported by the mainstream media? Follow the $$$s

[harm_less]

The covid is oficially over!!

Judging from the points raised in the posted video that is not the case.

[zqwerty]

Last week and almost every week since the start of the covid crisis 30 people died of covid in NZ.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/4894...her-deaths

"Covid-19 case numbers: 12,277 new cases, 30 further deaths
1:47 pm on 8 May 2023 "

[harm_less]

The point in question is not so much about COVID itself but more about the proposed World Health Organisation’s (WHO) pandemic prevention and preparedness treaty. It appears not to be unlike the 3 Waters' proposal in that it takes the rights away from individual (councils/countries) and gives a greater organisation (central government/WHO) autonomous control of the regulatory structure in question.



This British MP raised his concerns about the process in a speech he presented to their parliament. He makes some very good points which are as pertinent to any country, including NZ, as they are to the UK.

[zqwerty]

Individuals do not have the right to put the majority at risk because of crazy theories they have gleaned from the internet or where-ever.

[harm_less]

Individuals do not have the right to put the majority at risk because of crazy theories they have gleaned from the internet or where-ever.

By "individuals" who are you referring to? Your antagonism could equally be attributed to either anti-vaccination protesters or WHO treaty protagonists.

[zqwerty]

Anyone who feels that mandates can be breached because of their "human rights" thereby putting others at risk of infection during a pandemic.

[harm_less]

Anyone who feels that mandates can be breached because of their "human rights" thereby putting others at risk of infection during a pandemic.

Your point of view assumes that both the vaccination regime still remains efficacious in respect of the current virus variants circulating while also ignores the fears of an increasing portion of populations in many countries of the prevalence of significant vaccine injuries.

The presenters to the European Parliament's International COVID Summit are high level scientists conveying expert medical research and together with the UK MP they are sounding a loud warning about the overarching powers that the WHO are seeking by way of its Health Treaty. To put it in simple terms the WHO Treaty is not unlike our own 3 Waters legislation where an independent body (WHO/NZ central government) removes governing authority over health implementation from those who currently make those decisions (individual countries' health systems/regional councils.

As Andrew Bridgen so eloquently states in my earlier posted video the implications of allowing the WHO this degree of autonomous mandate is potentially risky at best.

[zqwerty]

Millions died in America from not being vaccinated, for whatever reasons; we in NZ (thanks Jacinda) avoided the worst by being vaccinated and taking sensible precautions, think the number for herd immunity is somewhere around 80%.

[harm_less]

Millions died in America from not being vaccinated, for whatever reasons; we in NZ (thanks Jacinda) avoided the worst by being vaccinated and taking sensible precautions, think the number for herd immunity is somewhere around 80%.

Herd immunity in regard to the original strain of COVID was 80% in theory but it is no longer considered possible: https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinica...-realistic

I would suggest that NZ's strict lockdown, border closures, and social distancing and masking protocols played as large if not a greater measure in our COVID control success than did vaccination, and these measures remain most effective as the virus continues to mutate gaining infectiousness and decreasing mortality.

Also New Zealand's exemplary strategy in controlling the invasion and transmission of COVID was a rarity among the world's nations. If the WHO Treaty as being touted had been in place it is unlikely that we would have had the freedom to implement the measures we did but instead would have been forced to follow the lead of whatever broad brush strategies the WHO mandated. Do you really see that as best for us?

[C_T_Russell]

Why isn't this event being reported by the mainstream media? Follow the $$$s

Completley agree with you. Robert Malone has been exposing alot of the vaccine injuries too.
Its all a coverup, thats why the MSM wont cover it.

[SueDonim]

Forget about what MSM (or any other media) says and stop worrying about coverups. The information you need about safety is in the research articles being published that, even if behind a paywall, will still have an abstract that covers the important points. Please please please stop believing the misinformation and disinformation you see everywhere on the internet that only continues because it is being fed by the gullible who will believe anything except evidence.

The safety issue is not whether there is any risk with the vaccine, but what the risk is compared to the risk of getting covid. Very few people are seriously hurt from the vaccine. Very many people die from covid.

[harm_less]

Forget about what MSM (or any other media) says and stop worrying about coverups. The information you need about safety is in the research articles being published that, even if behind a paywall, will still have an abstract that covers the important points. Please please please stop believing the misinformation and disinformation you see everywhere on the internet that only continues because it is being fed by the gullible who will believe anything except evidence.

The safety issue is not whether there is any risk with the vaccine, but what the risk is compared to the risk of getting covid. Very few people are seriously hurt from the vaccine. Very many people die from covid.

But how does publicly available evidence stand when academic studies are being blocked at source?

[SueDonim]

Forget about what MSM (or any other media) says and stop worrying about coverups. The information you need about safety is in the research articles being published that, even if behind a paywall, will still have an abstract that covers the important points. Please please please stop believing the misinformation and disinformation you see everywhere on the internet that only continues because it is being fed by the gullible who will believe anything except evidence.

The safety issue is not whether there is any risk with the vaccine, but what the risk is compared to the risk of getting covid. Very few people are seriously hurt from the vaccine. Very many people die from covid.

But how does publicly available evidence stand when academic studies are being blocked at source?

I did a Medline search to see what is there about adverse effects of vaccines ((("covid 19"[MeSH Terms]) AND (vaccination[MeSH Terms])) AND (Adverse Effects[MeSH Subheading]) and a second search for immunization ((("covid 19"[MeSH Terms]) AND ("immunization"[MeSH Terms])) AND (Adverse Effects[MeSH Subheading])) got 2635 and 2932 results respectively. There will be overlap. I don't see any evidence of research being blocked at source.

I also checked the Clinical Trials database. I got 1293 results of which only 186 have a status that could be construed as abandoned. So no evidence of research being blocked at source.

In both searches, I see evidence that a lot of work is being done.

Meanwhile I checked the "summit" in the video. Robert Malone and Byram Bridle are well known antis even though they should know better. You can read this about Malone https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arch...ic/619734/ and this about Bridle https://byrambridle.com/. They are both less credible than John Campbell.

[harm_less]

Meanwhile I checked the "summit" in the video. Robert Malone and Byram Bridle are well known antis even though they should know better. You can read this about Malone https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arch...ic/619734/ and this about Bridle https://byrambridle.com/. They are both less credible than John Campbell.

The link I posted featured Professor Norman Fenton?

How about Dr David Martin?: https://twitter.com/i/status/1658437354250706944

[C_T_Russell]

Nice to see you waking up to the truth of all of this harm_less

[king1]

so quick question, is/was this "International COVID Summit" an official thing attended by representatives of governments? or a fringe gathering of some of the more unhappy members of society, unhappy with vaccines and mandates etc

[C_T_Russell]

so quick question, is/was this "International COVID Summit" an official thing attended by representatives of governments? or a fringe gathering of some of the more unhappy members of society, unhappy with vaccines and mandates etc

The fact it was held at the European parliament should at least give it some measure of credibility.
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