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Just for those who don't know the difference
#21
(20-06-2023, 12:04 PM)Roscoe Wrote: Do you know the difference between inquiry and enquiry? It seems that quite a few people don't and that includes the Yanks, but then they have their own ideas about our language and they certainly do not know the difference. They certainly don't use the King's English. To them everything is an inquiry.

So if you are not aware of the difference, as I understand it an enquiry is a question such as the question I put up at the beginning of this post. That is an enquiry.

An inquiry is an investigation such as something the police would do when they are looking into a crime. 

I hope that is sufficient to explain the difference between the two.

That reminded me of this:



A MESSAGE FROM THE QUEEN
To the citizens of the United States of America from Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II
In light of your failure in recent years to nominate competent candidates for President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. (You should look up 'revocation' in the Oxford English Dictionary.)
Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths, and territories (except North Dakota, which she does not fancy).
Your new Prime Minister, Theresa May, will appoint a Governor for America without the need for further elections.
Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour,' 'favour,' 'labour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix '-ize' will be replaced by the suffix '-ise.' Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (look up 'vocabulary').

2. Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as ''like' and 'you know' is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take into account the reinstated letter 'u'' and the elimination of '-ize.'

3. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.

4. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not quite ready to be independent. Guns should only be used for shooting grouse. If you can't sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not ready to shoot grouse.

5. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. Although a permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

7. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline) of roughly $10/US gallon. Get used to it.

8. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.

9. The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. South African beer is also acceptable, as they are pound for pound the greatest sporting nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth - see what it did for them. American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.

10. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie Macdowell attempt at English dialect in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.

11. You will cease playing American football. There is only one kind of proper football; you call it soccer. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies).

12. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the South Africans first to take the sting out of their deliveries.

13.. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.

14. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due (backdated to 1776).

15. Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 p.m. with proper cups, with saucers, and never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; plus strawberries (with cream) when in season.
God Save the Queen!
Big Grin
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#22
'Wait list' fgs - when did it become too difficult to pronounce words of more than one syllable!

And the godawful' swim meet'.
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
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#23
Another one - the misuse of 'that' when it comes to people 'who'...
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#24
Yeah, that one annoys me too. As does 'going forward' instead of in future or 'growing; something rather than enlarging or extending it; which sounds especially silly if it happens to be a business - you do though get an interesting mental image of rows of lettuce-like businesses planted in a garden. Smile
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
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(22-06-2023, 10:17 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: Yeah, that one annoys me too. As does 'going forward' instead of in future or 'growing; something rather than enlarging or extending it; which sounds especially silly if it happens to be a business - you do though get an interesting mental image of rows of lettuce-like businesses planted in a garden. Smile

"Grow" as a transitive verb annoys me, e.g. "grow the tax base" instead of "expand the tax base".  There are very few usages of grow as a transitive verb, the only one I can think of is "I will grow my hair", and that's basically slang for "not cut my hair".   Nit picking, I know, but inexact usages are grating and unclear.
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#26
(20-06-2023, 03:08 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Oh yes, my favourite nerdish complaint. People who do not understand their own language. My personal trigger is the use of less instead of fewer. As in fewer aftershocks, not less...

Yes. It drives me nuts too. And while I'm mentally correcting the person I then miss out on listening properly to what they are actually saying.

The other one that has this effect on me is "between" (two people) versus "among" (three or more people).

That has now reminded me that recently I have seen confusion between "affect" and "effect".
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#27
It wasn't until I went back to school to do a philosophy paper that I discovered 'affect' as a very strange noun. Language is fascinating...
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#28
Another clanger that seems to have gained popularity lately is the use of learning/s as a noun, where the correct word should be lesson/s.
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#29
Something amusing I've seen a few times lately is "A load of crock", which I assume has developed from "A crock of shit".
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#30
(22-06-2023, 01:57 PM)harm_less Wrote: Another clanger that seems to have gained popularity lately is the use of learning/s as a noun, where the correct word should be lesson/s.

If only all lessons created learning. Another one is "knowledge" used to mean "information". It would be great if the two went together but so often the person who was informed doesn't gain the knowledge they should have.
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#31
"Offshore" rather than overseas.

The Brighton pier is offshore; other countries are overseas.


And 'going forward' fgs - really? Is it now too difficult to say in the future?
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
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#32
(22-06-2023, 11:20 AM)SueDonim Wrote:
(20-06-2023, 03:08 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Oh yes, my favourite nerdish complaint. People who do not understand their own language. My personal trigger is the use of less instead of fewer. As in fewer aftershocks, not less...

Yes. It drives me nuts too. And while I'm mentally correcting the person I then miss out on listening properly to what they are actually saying.

The other one that has this effect on me is "between" (two people) versus "among" (three or more people).

That has now reminded me that recently I have seen confusion between "affect" and "effect".

Yes, you're correct, many people don't appear to know the difference between affect and effect, although it has been made simpler for the dummies among us now that the affect has been replaced (by the Americans and taken up by everyone else) by impact. Nothing has an affect any more. Everything now has an impact.
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#33
And lay rather than lie is starting to be used here too; lay on the beach instead of lie on the beach.
in order to be old & wise, you must first be young & stupid. (I'm still working on that.)
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