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The lie of home detention
#61
It would be interesting if the media showed the other side of home detention - those cases which work successfully - rather than constantly focusing on those which don't. If nothing else, it would make a refreshing change.

The last thing needed is to emulate America in any way at all when it comes to the justice system; they have an appalling record.
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#62
Together with most other parts of the American way of doing things in general.
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#63
(28-07-2023, 12:04 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: It would be interesting if the media showed the other side of home detention - those cases which work successfully - rather than constantly focusing on those which don't. If nothing else, it would make a refreshing change.

The last thing needed is to emulate America in any way at all when it comes to the justice system; they have an appalling record.

What needs to happen is that Home D should NEVER be used for anyone convicted of a violent crime.  How does a gang member involved in a shootout in a public place and party to  murder get bail at all?  How does a gang member who committed a violent sexual assault on someone and who continued to threaten the victim get home D?
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#64
(28-07-2023, 01:15 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:
(28-07-2023, 12:04 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: It would be interesting if the media showed the other side of home detention - those cases which work successfully - rather than constantly focusing on those which don't. If nothing else, it would make a refreshing change.

The last thing needed is to emulate America in any way at all when it comes to the justice system; they have an appalling record.

What needs to happen is that Home D should NEVER be used for anyone convicted of a violent crime.  How does a gang member involved in a shootout in a public place and party to  murder get bail at all?  How does a gang member who committed a violent sexual assault on someone and who continued to threaten the victim get home D?

it does look like it has been an ongoing issue for some time though...

Found this PDF here - attached - its an older review but enlightening nonetheless.

https://thehub.swa.govt.nz/assets/docume...2011_0.pdf

home detention use seemed to ramp up in 2008 from 400 odd to 1600 or so in 2011 - page 10

but interestingly it would seem that those classified violent offenders have always been able to get HD, making up roughly 20% - page 12 - maybe they had 'good' representation at the parole hearings...

 and the Offences while on Home Detention climbed dramatically in 2008 as well, from 1.7% to 20%+ - page 18...

something must have changed policy-wise in 2008 that seems to have triggered all these home detention problems...


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#65
Maybe the political prison numbers targeting thing? Look! We've reduced prison numbers, aren't we great...

Funny though how those shop lifters, benefit fraudsters, green fairies and small user growers still end up behind bars.
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#66
(28-07-2023, 02:48 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Maybe the political prison numbers targeting thing? Look! We've reduced prison numbers, aren't we great...

Funny though how those shop lifters, benefit fraudsters, green fairies and small user growers still end up behind bars.

Yes they do don't they. If one was of a cynical turn of mind, one might very well draw the conclusion that there's one law for the wealthy & another for the poor.



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https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside...e-to-start
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#67
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/teenager-j...Z4BRLZRMQ/

Another outstanding home D decision. I bet thise girls he raped feel so listened to and valued.

(28-07-2023, 02:14 PM)king1 Wrote:
(28-07-2023, 01:15 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: What needs to happen is that Home D should NEVER be used for anyone convicted of a violent crime.  How does a gang member involved in a shootout in a public place and party to  murder get bail at all?  How does a gang member who committed a violent sexual assault on someone and who continued to threaten the victim get home D?

it does look like it has been an ongoing issue for some time though...

Found this PDF here - attached - its an older review but enlightening nonetheless.

https://thehub.swa.govt.nz/assets/docume...2011_0.pdf

home detention use seemed to ramp up in 2008 from 400 odd to 1600 or so in 2011 - page 10

but interestingly it would seem that those classified violent offenders have always been able to get HD, making up roughly 20% - page 12 - maybe they had 'good' representation at the parole hearings...

 and the Offences while on Home Detention climbed dramatically in 2008 as well, from 1.7% to 20%+ - page 18...

something must have changed policy-wise in 2008 that seems to have triggered all these home detention problems...

Never said it hasn't been an issue for some time.  And both major parties are as guilty of each other for allowing violent criminals to be granted home D.
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