SSD Prices

[king1]

Hasn't the price of them come down markedly of late?

Take a 500GB Samsung EVO 870 sata 

• a year or so ago it would be something like 90 -100 odd dollars...
  
• last time I bought some month or so ago were around $75 I think it was
  
• today around $50...
  

NVME drives have probably slowed the demand for 2.5" SATAs

Wondering if Samsung might be struggling a bit of late...  closing down their kiosks in NZ I heard, a new business only portal for buying direct, and now slashing prices on SSDs.

Anyone used the Netac SSDs? Dove Electronics have them and are /were quite a bit cheaper than the Samsung SSDs... 

 I have always preferred the Samsungs, never let me down yet at least

[Wainuitech]

Hasn't the price of them come down markedly of late?




Anyone used the Netac SSDs? Dove Electronics have them and are /were quite a bit cheaper than the Samsung SSDs... 

 

  Been using Netacs ever since Dove made them available. They are ever slightly slower ( going by the specs) than the top end Drives, but to be honest I had a Samsung in a PC and changed it to a netac, cant tell the difference in speed.

They are cheaper, and come with a 5 Year Warranty. For every day usage they are fine.

Heres the Specs: 

Samsung 870 Evo 500GB   
SATA 6Gb/sec, 500GB, 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive. Up to 560MB/s Read, Up to 530MB/s Write, 300TBW, 3-bit MLC V-NAND Flash, 45.0g, 69.85x100x6.8

Netac 512GB
SATA 6Gb/sec, 512GB, 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive, up to 540MB/s Read, up to 490MB/s Write, 3D TLC NAND Flash, 54g 70 x100 x 7mm, Max 280TBW

Always keep a few 256 and 512GB Netacs in stock. Never had a single failure  out of the dozens I have put in.

[king1]

Hasn't the price of them come down markedly of late?




Anyone used the Netac SSDs? Dove Electronics have them and are /were quite a bit cheaper than the Samsung SSDs... 

 

  Been using Netacs ever since Dove made them available. They are ever slightly slower ( going by the specs) than the top end Drives, but to be honest I had a Samsung in a PC and changed it to a netac, cant tell the difference in speed.

They are cheaper, and come with a 5 Year Warranty. For every day usage they are fine.

Heres the Specs: 

Samsung 870 Evo 500GB   
SATA 6Gb/sec, 500GB, 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive. Up to 560MB/s Read, Up to 530MB/s Write, 300TBW, 3-bit MLC V-NAND Flash, 45.0g, 69.85x100x6.8

Netac 512GB
SATA 6Gb/sec, 512GB, 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive, up to 540MB/s Read, up to 490MB/s Write, 3D TLC NAND Flash, 54g 70 x100 x 7mm, Max 280TBW

Always keep a few 256 and 512GB Netacs in stock. Never had a single failure  out of the dozens I have put in.

good info thanks, i tried a few Crucials over the years and the odd Adata, always seem to have problems ...  might try the Netacs next time and see how it goes, only used one once when Samsung was out of stock a while back...

[SueDonim]

How about portable hard drives? My (SSD) computer is just used as a server and all my data is on portables, up to 5TB. I'd love to go the SSD way with them but there is a huge price difference last time I looked.

[Wainuitech]

How about portable hard drives? My (SSD) computer is just used as a server and all my data is on portables, up to 5TB. I'd love to go the SSD way with them but there is a huge price difference last time I looked.

Large SSD Capacity are not as common mechanical drives ( yet) 

You have to remember, (when it comes down to it)  an external Drive is nothing more than a Standard SSD or mechanical drive in a fancy case. Their size is still either 2.5 or 3.5" Drives inside the case, with the occasional M.2

These drives are still the same for failures as a Drive in a PC / Laptop. Saving all your data ONLY on an external drive is dangerous, and not safe from lose.

[SueDonim]

How about portable hard drives? My (SSD) computer is just used as a server and all my data is on portables, up to 5TB. I'd love to go the SSD way with them but there is a huge price difference last time I looked.

Large SSD Capacity are not as common mechanical drives ( yet) 

You have to remember, (when it comes down to it)  an external Drive is nothing more than a Standard SSD or mechanical drive in a fancy case. Their size is still either 2.5 or 3.5" Drives inside the case, with the occasional M.2

These drives are still the same for failures as a Drive in a PC / Laptop. Saving all your data ONLY on an external drive is dangerous, and not safe from lose.

I don't get why using external HDs would be more dangerous than an internal one. At any given time my files are spread across 2, with a third used for backup. The backup gets locked away when full. Advantages are that I can lock all of them away when we go away (usually several weeks a year in the camper) so that a break-in might result in the computer getting nicked, but not my data. I also have flexibility to take them with me if I wish. I don't usually do that, rather do the reverse - when I download photos to the laptop I immediately back them up on to 2 portables, so that until I get home and put them into the main system I have three copies.

The only time I've ever had a problem was when windows warned me that something was amiss and I let it "fix" it, then realised that it did that by deleting a whole folder. So I just retired that drive by plugging in the next and copying through the files I needed, including the backup copy of the missing folder. Problem solved without having to mess with the main computer.

And the biggest reason of all is that the total of the working drives is way more than the space on my computer. I'm mindful that the desktop SSD has a limited life and am staring to think towards what comes next, but am not panicking yet.

[king1]

Large SSD Capacity are not as common mechanical drives ( yet) 

You have to remember, (when it comes down to it)  an external Drive is nothing more than a Standard SSD or mechanical drive in a fancy case. Their size is still either 2.5 or 3.5" Drives inside the case, with the occasional M.2

These drives are still the same for failures as a Drive in a PC / Laptop. Saving all your data ONLY on an external drive is dangerous, and not safe from lose.

I don't get why using external HDs would be more dangerous than an internal one. At any given time my files are spread across 2, with a third used for backup. The backup gets locked away when full. Advantages are that I can lock all of them away when we go away (usually several weeks a year in the camper) so that a break-in might result in the computer getting nicked, but not my data. I also have flexibility to take them with me if I wish. I don't usually do that, rather do the reverse - when I download photos to the laptop I immediately back them up on to 2 portables, so that until I get home and put them into the main system I have three copies.

The only time I've ever had a problem was when windows warned me that something was amiss and I let it "fix" it, then realised that it did that by deleting a whole folder. So I just retired that drive by plugging in the next and copying through the files I needed, including the backup copy of the missing folder. Problem solved without having to mess with the main computer.

And the biggest reason of all is that the total of the working drives is way more than the space on my computer. I'm mindful that the desktop SSD has a limited life and am staring to think towards what comes next, but am not panicking yet.

external drives are easily knocked and dropped, lost (yes it happens)...  mechanical hdds are shock sensitive, a drop from 30cm onto the floor can kill it... SSDs are less prone to shock but cables, connections, sockets etc can still be damaged.

Most people tend to look after their laptops better... 

But it is good you have a backup, the rule of thumb is something like more than one copy on more than one backup medium...

and SSDs in laptops can usually be upgraded if you want more space, without reinstalling ...

[Wainuitech]

I don't get why using external HDs would be more dangerous than an internal one.

Because thats NOT what you 1st posted. you said "all my data is on portables"  Which indicates you dont store data on internal drives. If all your data is only on external drives its subject to the same failures as internals and when the drive fails or is lost, if its only on external you lose the lot. You DIDN"T state you had backups on external.

I've run my own computer business for over 20 years, and You see one thing is very common, people dont always give all the info. No ones a mind reader, no one knows exactly what you actually mean. Its also VERY common on forums, people who post only half the problem and  think its not important to give all info, then end up with wrong answers.

[SueDonim]

external drives are easily knocked and dropped, lost (yes it happens)...  mechanical hdds are shock sensitive, a drop from 30cm onto the floor can kill it... SSDs are less prone to shock but cables, connections, sockets etc can still be damaged.

Most people tend to look after their laptops better... 

But it is good you have a backup, the rule of thumb is something like more than one copy on more than one backup medium...

and SSDs in laptops can usually be upgraded if you want more space, without reinstalling ...

Thanks. I do try to take care of them. The ones in the office at home are only moved when necessary and treated gently. On the camper the laptop and HDs live in padded sleeves in a drawer lined with memory foam so that they don't jiggle about in transit.

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I don't get why using external HDs would be more dangerous than an internal one.

Because thats NOT what you 1st posted. you said "all my data is on portables"  Which indicates you dont store data on internal drives. If all your data is only on external drives its subject to the same failures as internals and when the drive fails or is lost, if its only on external you lose the lot. You DIDN"T state you had backups on external.

I've run my own computer business for over 20 years, and You see one thing is very common, people dont always give all the info. No ones a mind reader, no one knows exactly what you actually mean. Its also VERY common on forums, people who post only half the problem and  think its not important to give all info, then end up with wrong answers.

Sorry. My post was a simple question in response to the news that prices of internal SSDs were coming down where I wondered if external/portable ones would follow suit and I just gave a sentence for context on that.

From a support point of view I fully understand the need to give full information when asking for help. I spent 30+ years in systems related roles where I was the goto for the specialised database software we used where I had to troubleshoot whether I could deal with a problem or whether I needed vendor support or IT support. I could fix a lot myself, but also spent a lot of time translating between an end user saying "it doesn't work" and the IT person trying to ask "WHAT doesn't work?". Sitting in the middle I could usually interpret both ways to get to the info needed.

[Wainuitech]

Sorry. My post was a simple question in response to the news that prices of internal SSDs were coming down where I wondered if external/portable ones would follow suit and I just gave a sentence for context on that.

Personally I construct my Own. From the Suppliers buy an empty External case, put in what ever size drive I feel like, and these types of cases are designed to have the drives removed, where as Name Brand are usually sealed and not designed to come apart.

Always work out cheaper as well, esp since buying them at Wholesale

Will preconstructed come cheaper ?? depends on how long  some retailers can milk the pricing. "Generally" wholesalers will change pricing as determined by the manufacture.

[nzoomed]

The Samsung SSDs are pretty much the highest price, sure, quality and performance might be slightly better, but I've been finding that the Kingston and crucial drives have been giving a much better bang for your buck.