New Zealand is stupid

[C_T_Russell]

Watching  Q&A right now interviewing Rodney Jones and he is bang on the mark.
He says it as it is that NZ sold our cows cheap to China and now they are making dairy products on their own thanks to us.
We have been too reliant on China and we need to diversify our export markets ASAP and farmers need to move to lamb again like NZ was once famous for.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

The meat of that interview, I suspect, went right over many heads.

[C_T_Russell]

The meat of that interview, I suspect, went right over many heads.

Because we have so many stupid people!

[harm_less]

Watching  Q&A right now interviewing Rodney Jones and he is bang on the mark.
He says it as it is that NZ sold our cows cheap to China and now they are making dairy products on their own thanks to us.
We have been too reliant on China and we need to diversify our export markets ASAP and farmers need to move to lamb again like NZ was once famous for.

New Zealand's agricultural industry is about to get an absolute thrashing from the move towards precision fermentation produced proteins. The differentiation we need to capitalise on is pasture grown traditionally produced meat and dairy but the customers that are able to afford such premium goods as they will be also shun environmentally degrading practices, which will become increasingly the case as the effects of industrial farming practices alter our climate, so our farmers need to get their shit together in this respect if they want to pursue that market.

[C_T_Russell]

Watching  Q&A right now interviewing Rodney Jones and he is bang on the mark.
He says it as it is that NZ sold our cows cheap to China and now they are making dairy products on their own thanks to us.
We have been too reliant on China and we need to diversify our export markets ASAP and farmers need to move to lamb again like NZ was once famous for.

New Zealand's agricultural industry is about to get an absolute thrashing from the move towards precision fermentation produced proteins. The differentiation we need to capitalise on is pasture grown traditionally produced meat and dairy but the customers that are able to afford such premium goods as they will be also shun environmentally degrading practices, which will become increasingly the case as the effects of industrial farming practices alter our climate, so our farmers need to get their shit together in this respect if they want to pursue that market.

Farmers would be out of a job if people buy fermented proteins, unless they start growing stuff to ferment.
Don't see any meaningful impact when all those plants will need synthetic fertilizer anyway.
Fermentation produces co2 anyway, and methane from animals is carbon neutral and only has a short half life in the atmosphere anyway.
I doubt our cows have any measurable effect on the climate.

[harm_less]

New Zealand's agricultural industry is about to get an absolute thrashing from the move towards precision fermentation produced proteins. The differentiation we need to capitalise on is pasture grown traditionally produced meat and dairy but the customers that are able to afford such premium goods as they will be also shun environmentally degrading practices, which will become increasingly the case as the effects of industrial farming practices alter our climate, so our farmers need to get their shit together in this respect if they want to pursue that market.

Farmers would be out of a job if people buy fermented proteins, unless they start growing stuff to ferment.
Don't see any meaningful impact when all those plants will need synthetic fertilizer anyway.
Fermentation produces co2 anyway, and methane from animals is carbon neutral and only has a short half life in the atmosphere anyway.
I doubt our cows have any measurable effect on the climate.

Your "doubts" mean diddly squat. You would also do well to watch this:

[Oh_hunnihunni]

As I said, over some heads.

[Lilith7]

Usually I'd disagree with the sweeping statement made by the thread title. But I'm presently reading Fear, Byron C Clarke which is about the loony tunes brigade here, influemced by overseas far right nutters...

[Olive]

I found Byron's book fascinating.   I followed him and Rangi Kemara on Twitter throughout the Parliament anti-mandate protests and the information they shared from Telegram and other CT media was spine-chilling.

[Lilith7]

I found Byron's book fascinating.   I followed him and Rangi Kemara on Twitter throughout the Parliament anti-mandate protests and the information they shared from Telegram and other CT media was spine-chilling.

There are definitely some unbalanced people out there; some of the stuff is so bizarre that it makes me laugh at the sheer stupidity of what humans can get themselves to believe.

We're a very strange species.

[Zurdo]

I thought it was just me that was stupid - so glad the rest of the country is with me on this one.

[Lilith7]

I thought it was just me that was stupid - so glad the rest of the country is with me on this one.

Oh hell no - we seem to be the  (comparatively ) sane ones. Which is slightly worrying...


There are some very gullible, unbalanced people out there who are ready to believe virtually anything. Some old style, 'keep women in their place' & keep yourself 'pure' by doing lots of exercise & praying frequently, Christianity.

Unbelievably there are even those who can manage to believe that 'those wicked jewish people are in an alliance with those wicked muslim people' & hell bent on taking over the world, by  somehow having spectacularly large numbers of children.  This despite the centuries of discord, violence & problems between the two religions.
 The ignorance of history is astounding.

[C_T_Russell]

Farmers would be out of a job if people buy fermented proteins, unless they start growing stuff to ferment.
Don't see any meaningful impact when all those plants will need synthetic fertilizer anyway.
Fermentation produces co2 anyway, and methane from animals is carbon neutral and only has a short half life in the atmosphere anyway.
I doubt our cows have any measurable effect on the climate.

Your "doubts" mean diddly squat. You would also do well to watch this:

Yay, genetic engineering to the rescue to save the planet!
Doubt that is going to wash well with the greens isn't it?
The irony that the greens are offered a "solution" to the climate crisis is a laugh to say the least.
Either way, that seems a rather bleak future if we are going to be living off this shit instead of meat and dairy.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

The important word in that statement is 'living'.

It beats the hell out of the alternative.

[king1]

Your "doubts" mean diddly squat. You would also do well to watch this:

Either way, that seems a rather bleak future if we are going to be living off this shit instead of meat and dairy.

That might have been the point CT...

[Kenj]

The meat of that interview, I suspect, went right over many heads.

Because we have so many stupid people!

Never mind CT, read a lot, follow the news and you will improve 

[C_T_Russell]

Either way, that seems a rather bleak future if we are going to be living off this shit instead of meat and dairy.

That might have been the point CT...

If that's the case, we can expect to see a split in the greens, those that are the older hippie type that wanted all the G.E banned and then the more younger generation who will be all over the science to save us no matter what the cost.

[harm_less]

That might have been the point CT...

If that's the case, we can expect to see a split in the greens, those that are the older hippie type that wanted all the G.E banned and then the more younger generation who will be all over the science to save us no matter what the cost.

A point that you're missing is the difference between GMOs contained within a research or laboratory setting versus allowing GMOs capable of self replicating out into the open environment. That is very much understood under Green ideology including the influence of unbridled commercial factors in attempting to cross that boundary.