A few posters here seem to be worried about Act

[Wainuiguy]

5  posts about Act or David Seymour on the first page.....

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Poli porn...

[Kenj]

5  posts about Act or David Seymour on the first page.....

Hmmmmn, not a lot of class in the job seekers. They all want the job even if they only manage to stay in the job for 9 years.  

There is a new Labour candidate standing in Napier to replace Stuart Nash who got the boot. Just what we need... an effing Clinical Psychologist. He came and gave us oldies in the village a "meet the candidate MP". Sounds a very intelligent person who probably knows f..k all about the real world. He was met by silence when he finished his spiel. Not a lot of support in this village I'm afraid. Whereas the National Party candidate got a great reception.

I know that this forum has a goodly % of Labour/Green/Maori party supporters so I have never said anything, being relatively a newb to the forum from the old PF1 forum. But gee I shudder when I look at their people standing for election, I think of what damage to the country can be done if they got back in for the next 3 years.

Don't growl at me, Just my thoughts. I really am an angel in real life.

[yousnoozeyoulose]

Will be interesting to see what concessions the Nats will make to Seymour post-election, assuming that ACT will bring in a pretty substantial number of MPs/loonies.

And what portfolios will Seymour be eyeing up personally? For someone who only got 149 votes in 2011, he's done a good job of wheedling his way to the almost-top.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

I can hear the flapping of feathery wings from here...

We'll be fine, so long as the Greens get in.

[Kenj]

I can hear the flapping of feathery wings from here...

We'll be fine, so long as the Greens get in.

Sorry, they are on my scary list, along with Maori party and Labour people.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Scary? Nooooooo...

Is Kermit scary?

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Will be interesting to see what concessions the Nats will make to Seymour post-election, assuming that ACT will bring in a pretty substantial number of MPs/loonies.

And what portfolios will Seymour be eyeing up personally? For someone who only got 149 votes in 2011, he's done a good job of wheedling his way to the almost-top.

He did good with that end of life thing though. Though it was a bit watered down...

[Wainuiguy]

Scary? Nooooooo...

Is Kermit scary?

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Will be interesting to see what concessions the Nats will make to Seymour post-election, assuming that ACT will bring in a pretty substantial number of MPs/loonies.

And what portfolios will Seymour be eyeing up personally? For someone who only got 149 votes in 2011, he's done a good job of wheedling his way to the almost-top.

He did good with that end of life thing though. Though it was a bit watered down...

Yes the Dying with Dignity Act was a example of well thought out law.  It does what it needs to and has all the right checks and balances.  It also shows why the decriminalization of cannabis failed to pass the referendum- the law was in place before the vote so everyone knew exactly what they were voting for.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

You missed the bit about it being watered down then?

[R2x1]

Might have looked like good law, but that would never 'appeal' to lawyers, They're safe, it was all an Act.

Funny thing about the old law against suicide, they only ever prosecuted those who didn't do it.

[Wainuiguy]

You missed the bit about it being watered down then?

Watered down or amended.  Things that often happen as a bill passes through committee.  Regardless it does what it was designed for but has enought checks and Balances to ensure it isn't abused.

Have personal experience with how it works I think it gets the balance correct.

[king1]

politicians generally work on the principle of 'any publicity is good publicity' - so probably a win win for everyone...

[Lilith7]

Scary? Nooooooo...

Is Kermit scary?

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Will be interesting to see what concessions the Nats will make to Seymour post-election, assuming that ACT will bring in a pretty substantial number of MPs/loonies.

And what portfolios will Seymour be eyeing up personally? For someone who only got 149 votes in 2011, he's done a good job of wheedling his way to the almost-top.

He did good with that end of life thing though. Though it was a bit watered down...

It was - but nonetheless, a good start which in future years may be amended if needed. I'm not keen on him because he seems not to have much idea of the relaity of life for many people now & like others on the right seems only interested in what might make a profit.

Incidentally  he's on Te Ao with Moana tonight, MaoriTV at 8 pm which promises to be interesting. It was James Shaw last week, also interesting. She had Christopher Luxon on a few weeks back too.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

You missed the bit about it being watered down then?

Watered down or amended.  Things that often happen as a bill passes through committee.  Regardless it does what it was designed for but has enought checks and Balances to ensure it isn't abused.

Have personal experience with how it works I think it gets the balance correct.

I have personal experiences with drawn out deaths by dementia. I think it missed an opportunity by excluding it.

[Kenj]

Watered down or amended.  Things that often happen as a bill passes through committee.  Regardless it does what it was designed for but has enought checks and Balances to ensure it isn't abused.

Have personal experience with how it works I think it gets the balance correct.

I have personal experiences with drawn out deaths by dementia. I think it missed an opportunity by excluding it.

Yes, my darling, beautiful mother, started showing signs at late 79 years. In a rest home for about 2 years then to the varying degrees of Dementia Places til she needed full 24hr care at 85. She dragged on from there till she died at 87. she didn't know me (her favourite) from about 82-3 onward and spent her last 2 years sitting in a lazyboy chair with her eyes shut and jaw dropped. Terrible, only consolation was that she didn't know anything.

The end of life bill wouldn't have applied to her had it been available as one has to give consent and of course, Mum didn't even know day from night.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Very similar tale here with my Mum, except she knew what was going on and was very frightened by her misbehaving brain. That last year all she wanted to do was put her head in my lap so I could stroke her hair. It was heartbreaking.

If I get that diagnosis, I hope I have the courage to D I Y.

[Kenj]

Very similar tale here with my Mum, except she knew what was going on and was very frightened by her misbehaving brain. That last year all she wanted to do was put her head in my lap so I could stroke her hair. It was heartbreaking.

If I get that diagnosis, I hope I have the courage to D I Y.

Totally agree with you on your last words!

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Having just seen Seymour on tv1 news I think it is Luxon who should be worried. Not us...

[harm_less]

Having just seen Seymour on tv1 news I think it is Luxon who should be worried. Not us...

The problem though is that as was stated, if we end up with an ACT, NZF, Nat collaboration then Seymour and Winston will run rings around Luxon and that's a seriously scary proposition. Luxon has been demonstrating his ineptitude more and more over the past weeks and days. Seymour and Winnie's political experience will make dog tucker of him which is potentially a real tail wagging dog scenario.

i'm thinking that the limited support for National comments that Seymour made were done to exact damage on Luxon's campaign. Now that it has been, Seymour is walking back his threat to limit collateral damage to ACT. He's a cunning little shit.

[Lilith7]

Having just seen Seymour on tv1 news I think it is Luxon who should be worried. Not us...

The problem though is that as was stated, if we end up with an ACT, NZF, Nat collaboration then Seymour and Winston will run rings around Luxon and that's a seriously scary proposition. Luxon has been demonstrating his ineptitude more and more over the past weeks and days. Seymour and Winnie's political experience will make dog tucker of him which is potentially a real tail wagging dog scenario.

i'm thinking that the limited support for National comments that Seymour made were done to exact damage on Luxon's campaign. Now that it has been, Seymour is walking back his threat to limit collateral damage to ACT. He's a cunning little shit.

I think that sums him up well, very dodgy & Winnie's a total nightmare.