NZ First is putting New Zealanders First.

[C_T_Russell]

That's why they are polling more now.
Been tons of discussion for and against him on the talk back today.
Like it or lump it his support is growing and very well has a high chance of being required to form this next govt along national and act.
NZF is the Thorn in the side to both major political parties that gets in the way of their plans to ruin NZ.
It's a love/hate relationship.
NZ has seen what the last 3 years has been like without NZF in govt and run buy a labour govt let loose.
That's why NZF have so much support.
And that's why I'm voting for them too, I would have gone ACT, but many like myself now feel confident that NZF will pass 5% so have changed their minds and going with NZF instead.
You can tell luxon is concerned going by what he is saying.

[Olive]

That's why they are polling more now.
Been tons of discussion for and against him on the talk back today.
Like it or lump it his support is growing and very well has a high chance of being required to form this next govt along national and act.
NZF is the Thorn in the side to both major political parties that gets in the way of their plans to ruin NZ.
It's a love/hate relationship.
NZ has seen what the last 3 years has been like without NZF in govt and run buy a labour govt let loose.
That's why NZF have so much support.
And that's why I'm voting for them too, I would have gone ACT, but many like myself now feel confident that NZF will pass 5% so have changed their minds and going with NZF instead.
You can tell luxon is concerned going by what he is saying.

Are you serious?   I often assume that yours is a parody account, but the breathless punctuation in this post makes me suspect that you are sincere.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

The reason the minors are attracting support is the majors aren't.

Simple really.

[harm_less]

The reason the minors are attracting support is the majors aren't.

Simple really.

Makes sense when you think about it.

Those concerned about the environment gravitate to The Greens due to lack of real policies in that regard from anyone else.
NZ First are giving those living in the past the promise of shutting out immigrants.
ACT have a generous crop of wealth focussed followers.
A few disillusioned stragglers for TOP, Te Pati Maori, Freedoms and other 'also rans'.

National are relying on those who trust their unsupported promises and Labour is struggling to convince NZ that 'we don't know how lucky we are'. October 15th is looking like being the start of a turbulent time for Aotearoa.

[C_T_Russell]

The reason the minors are attracting support is the majors aren't.

Simple really.

Makes sense when you think about it.

Those concerned about the environment gravitate to The Greens due to lack of real policies in that regard from anyone else.
NZ First are giving those living in the past the promise of shutting out immigrants.
ACT have a generous crop of wealth focussed followers.
A few disillusioned stragglers for TOP, Te Pati Maori, Freedoms and other 'also rans'.

National are relying on those who trust their unsupported promises and Labour is struggling to convince NZ that 'we don't know how lucky we are'. October 15th is looking like being the start of a turbulent time for Aotearoa.

Winston always keeps the govt honest and held to account.
I wouldn't be surprised if NZF actually polls much higher on election day, along with the rest of the minor parties.
The green seem to be the highest polling minor party unfortunately, they are no longer a bunch of good well meaning hippies, but radical left borderline communists.
The fact is that more than half of kiwis are unhappy with the direction this country is running, and that says alot I'm these polls.
Jim Anderton also had a huge amount of respect for Winston.

[harm_less]

Winston is a consummate politician that learnt his trade from Muldoon. He is a fast talker but poor when it comes to substance as those who have partnered with him in the past well know. In the case of Luxon, Winston is a potential lifeline if the vote falls short for NAct but Luxon's inexperience in the political arena would see Winston and Seymour run rings around him in a coalition. Luxon's claim that he "didn't know" Winston in last nights debate was an obvious balls up as it implies that Luxon is either prepared to partner with someone he knows nothing about, or he was blatantly lying about his dis-familiarity with Winston. Lose-lose!

So far as The Greens are concerned your use of the term "communist" is well off the mark and probably an indication of your adoption of the wrongful use of this recently by those in the CT arena. Socialist is far closer to the truth but in the current situation of an existential crisis occurring from climatic factors which of course is fuel to an environmentally aware political party. The major parties are so focussed on economic ideologies they are hamstrung in being unable to adopt any meaningful environmental policies because for them this is on the wrong side of their ledger. Similarly social support measures funded by redistribution of excess wealth which is abhorrent to a large portion of the electorate who see themselves as rich but in reality are comfortably wealthy until their house of cards comes apart.

It has been said often that NZers don't so much vote governments in as vote them out. We are likely to be cast out of the frying pan and into the fire as this rings true once again.

[Wainuiguy]

Winston cares only for one thing - Winston. He always has. Only the idiotic think he cares for NZ.

[R2x1]

Winston cares only for one thing - Winston.  He always has.  Only the idiotic think he cares for NZ.

Oh well, I don't have to think who I'll vote for now. That's a relief.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Winston cares only for one thing - Winston.  He always has.  Only the idiotic think he cares for NZ.

Fascinating opinion piece on the right dishonourable on the Spinoff this morning from someone who does actually know that guy...

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/29-09-...er-winston

[harm_less]

Winston cares only for one thing - Winston.  He always has.  Only the idiotic think he cares for NZ.

Fascinating opinion piece on the right dishonourable on the Spinoff this morning from someone who does actually know that guy...

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/29-09-...er-winston

Very good piece, and echoes of Piggy in many of those personalities, particularly how he reacts to media interviews.

[Lilith7]

Winston cares only for one thing - Winston.  He always has.  Only the idiotic think he cares for NZ.

You may want to sit down - I agree with you.

Fairly sure I need a cuppa...


He does the very same thing every election, trots out racism knowing full well its utter B.S. but also that it attracts voters & he really does not give a toss as to who he attracts, as long as he can get those numbers. And if some desperate party is foolish enough to partner with him, they'll be led a very merry dance indeed.
And require a very, very long spoon...

[Olive]

Fascinating opinion piece on the right dishonourable on the Spinoff this morning from someone who does actually know that guy...

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/29-09-...er-winston

Very good piece, and echoes of Piggy in many of those personalities, particularly how he reacts to media interviews.

I remember Muldoon speaking at the university when I was a student,  several years before he became PM.  He was so incredibly rude to to the student organisers that I made up my mind then that I would never vote for his party.   I had a couple of women friends who thought he was incredibly attractive!

It seems that Winston is similarly polarising:  while anyone with a brain loathes him, there is a coterie of middle aged women who find him so attractive that they support him no matter how offensive he is.

[Lilith7]

Very good piece, and echoes of Piggy in many of those personalities, particularly how he reacts to media interviews.

I remember Muldoon speaking at the university when I was a student,  several years before he became PM.  He was so incredibly rude to to the student organisers that I made up my mind then that I would never vote for his party.   I had a couple of women friends who thought he was incredibly attractive!

It seems that Winston is similarly polarising:  while anyone with a brain loathes him, there is a coterie of middle aged women who find him so attractive that they support him no matter how offensive he is.

Yeeaahh...nah, I never got that whoie finding a rude,offensive person attractive regardless of how physically attractive they might be, thing at all.

 If someone is rude to people- especially someone who is a prominent figure for whatever reason -  then that says everything you need to know about them.

[C_T_Russell]

Winston cares only for one thing - Winston.  He always has.  Only the idiotic think he cares for NZ.

Same could be said for red or blue by that reasoning.
But there is no one else suitable to vote for, red and blue are just going to repeat history.
We need to move in a new direction, if you don't like Winston, then ACT is the only other option.

[Lilith7]

Winston cares only for one thing - Winston.  He always has.  Only the idiotic think he cares for NZ.

Same could be said for red or blue by that reasoning.
But there is no one else suitable to vote for, red and blue are just going to repeat history.
We need to move in a new direction, if you don't like Winston, then ACT is the only other option.

NO it damn well isn't. That would be disastrous for anyone not well off, ACT is not the slightest bit interested in those who are struggling, except in how they might further exploit them. And if that makes the lives of those people considerably harder, well that's their fault for being poor.  




God to a hungry child


I didn’t make this world for you
You didn’t buy any stocks in my
railroad
You didn’t invest in my
Corporation
Where are your shares in Standard
Oil?
I made the world for the rich
And the will-be-rich
And the have-always-been-rich
Not for you
Hungry child.


Langston Hughes

[C_T_Russell]

Same could be said for red or blue by that reasoning.
But there is no one else suitable to vote for, red and blue are just going to repeat history.
We need to move in a new direction, if you don't like Winston, then ACT is the only other option.

NO it damn well isn't. That would be disastrous for anyone not well off, ACT is not the slightest bit interested in those who are struggling, except in how they might further exploit them. And if that makes the lives of those people considerably harder, well that's their fault for being poor.  




God to a hungry child


I didn’t make this world for you
You didn’t buy any stocks in my
railroad
You didn’t invest in my
Corporation
Where are your shares in Standard
Oil?
I made the world for the rich
And the will-be-rich
And the have-always-been-rich
Not for you
Hungry child.


Langston Hughes

Well another term with the greens, labour and the maori party would be devastating.

[harm_less]

NO it damn well isn't. That would be disastrous for anyone not well off, ACT is not the slightest bit interested in those who are struggling, except in how they might further exploit them. And if that makes the lives of those people considerably harder, well that's their fault for being poor.  




God to a hungry child


I didn’t make this world for you
You didn’t buy any stocks in my
railroad
You didn’t invest in my
Corporation
Where are your shares in Standard
Oil?
I made the world for the rich
And the will-be-rich
And the have-always-been-rich
Not for you
Hungry child.


Langston Hughes

Well another term with the greens, labour and the maori party would be devastating.

That would depend on whether your perspective is dollar-centric or if your priorities are for social and environment metrics.

Things are going to get pretty ugly with a NAct/NZF coalition, and the realisation of what sort of government they are will be a shock for many middle NZers.

[Lilith7]

NO it damn well isn't. That would be disastrous for anyone not well off, ACT is not the slightest bit interested in those who are struggling, except in how they might further exploit them. And if that makes the lives of those people considerably harder, well that's their fault for being poor.  




God to a hungry child


I didn’t make this world for you
You didn’t buy any stocks in my
railroad
You didn’t invest in my
Corporation
Where are your shares in Standard
Oil?
I made the world for the rich
And the will-be-rich
And the have-always-been-rich
Not for you
Hungry child.


Langston Hughes

Well another term with the greens, labour and the maori party would be devastating.

That would only be true if all the person voting against them cared about was him/her self & increasing their income, at the expense of others.

[Praktica]

Well another term with the greens, labour and the maori party would be devastating.

That would only be true if all the person voting against them cared about was him/her self & increasing their income, at the expense of others.

Or if they believe all the conspiracy theory lies.

[Lilith7]

That would only be true if all the person voting against them cared about was him/her self & increasing their income, at the expense of others.

Or if they believe all the conspiracy theory lies.

Yes, them too - amazing that there are so many of them.