David Seymour appointed associate minister of Justice

[Lilith7]

It might be an interesting ploy - giving Seymour what's likely to be problematic, leaves the Nats one step back from whatever he does. In theory...


https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/3501598...les%20Bill.


"Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has handed ACT Party leader and incoming deputy prime minister, David Seymour, an extra portfolio, making him the associate justice minister so he can manage the Treaty Principles Bill.
National agreed to support the proposed legislation to define the principles of Te Tiriti o Waitangi to its first reading. Luxon has said the Bill would be divisive and unhelpful but hasn’t ruled out supporting it at its second and third readings.
A leaked Ministry of Justice document raised fundamental problems with the bill - an ACT Party policy in its coalition agreement with National - which is said was not supported by the spirit of the Treaty - or its text."







https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/01/26/pm-gi...ples-bill/


"Luxon said the changes "clarify" ministerial responsibility "in a small number of areas".
"Ministers have hit the ground running since they were sworn in nearly two months ago with strong progress made on the coalition Government's 100-day plan.
"Today's update further clarifies ministers' responsibilities in a small number of areas, supporting them in continuing to deliver on this Government's ambitious work programme," the PM said in a media release.
Luxon has said National has "no intention" to support the bill beyond the first reading and select committee, but has refused to fully commit to voting it down at later stages."

[Wainuiguy]

It might be an interesting ploy - giving Seymour what's likely to be problematic, leaves the Nats one step back from whatever he does. In theory...


https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/3501598...les%20Bill.


"Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has handed ACT Party leader and incoming deputy prime minister, David Seymour, an extra portfolio, making him the associate justice minister so he can manage the Treaty Principles Bill.
National agreed to support the proposed legislation to define the principles of Te Tiriti o Waitangi to its first reading. Luxon has said the Bill would be divisive and unhelpful but hasn’t ruled out supporting it at its second and third readings.
A leaked Ministry of Justice document raised fundamental problems with the bill - an ACT Party policy in its coalition agreement with National - which is said was not supported by the spirit of the Treaty - or its text."







https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/01/26/pm-gi...ples-bill/


"Luxon said the changes "clarify" ministerial responsibility "in a small number of areas".
"Ministers have hit the ground running since they were sworn in nearly two months ago with strong progress made on the coalition Government's 100-day plan.
"Today's update further clarifies ministers' responsibilities in a small number of areas, supporting them in continuing to deliver on this Government's ambitious work programme," the PM said in a media release.
Luxon has said National has "no intention" to support the bill beyond the first reading and select committee, but has refused to fully commit to voting it down at later stages."

Seems logical  - it is his Bill so fair enough for him to manage it.  Won't leave Select Committee.

[harm_less]

Interesting take on what is going on in regard to the Treaty activity by ACT
https://twitter.com/i/status/1751045003655414048

[Lilith7]

Interesting take on what is going on in regard to the Treaty activity by ACT
https://twitter.com/i/status/1751045003655414048

Thats really scary - basically trying to undermine democracy in that way could be said to be evil.

[harm_less]

Interesting take on what is going on in regard to the Treaty activity by ACT
https://twitter.com/i/status/1751045003655414048

Thats really scary - basically trying to undermine democracy in that way could be said to be evil.

Yeah. I'm definitely not a fan of Seymour. He's a devious and ill intentioned little f*cker.

[Lilith7]

Thats really scary - basically trying to undermine democracy in that way could be said to be evil.

Yeah. I'm definitely not a fan of Seymour. He's a devious and ill intentioned little f*cker.

Indeed - I think perhaps poisonous little prickle is the nicest thing I've heard him called.

Mainly from me.....

[Lilith7]

Definitely devious; the end of life bill was an entirely different thing.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/...b9ac&ei=11

"ACT leader David Seymour is confident he can persuade his coalition partners to back his controversial Treaty Principles Bill.  
ACT wanted a referendum on the Treaty of Waitangi's principles but instead National agreed a bill will be introduced and supported to the Select Committee stage. 
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon said National had no plans to support the bill past the first reading, but hasn't ruled it out. NZ First has also indicated it won't support it after the first reading. Despite this, Seymour remains confident he can change his coalition partners' minds. 



"Well, that's actually what I've done before," Seymour told AM's political panel.  
"I did that with end-of-life choice [bill], and people actually forget the times during that five-year campaign… when people said 'it's all over', 'why are you doing it?' Now it went through, and people forgot about those times."  

Seymour said whether the Bill progresses depends on what the public sentiment towards it is.  

"I suspect… people are going to recognise that we do have more division than we'd like in this country, that the real solution, the balm for division, is discussion," Seymour said.  
However, Green MP Chlöe Swarbrick, who appeared alongside Seymour on AM's political panel on Monday, said the treaty bill is "reductive and divisive rhetoric".   
"If we want to have that deliberate democracy process where we are talking about our constitutional foundation, what that looks like in the 21st century, then let's do this, but that is not that," Swarbrick said, gesturing towards Seymour.  
Seymour said there's "no doubt" the draft bill will change after people have input on it.