France guarantees right to abortion

[Lilith7]

France has become the world's first country to guarantee the right to abortion to all women. Macron is of course hoping that women will now vote for his right wing party; its to be hoped that most will have more sense.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68471568

"France has become the first country in the world to explicitly include the right to abortion in its constitution.
Parliamentarians voted to revise the country's 1958 constitution to enshrine women's "guaranteed freedom" to abort.

The overwhelming 780-72 vote saw a standing ovation in the parliament in Versailles when the result was announced.
President Emmanuel Macron described the move as "French pride" that had sent a "universal message".
However anti-abortion groups have strongly criticised the change, as has the Vatican.

Abortion has been legal in France since 1975, but polls show around 85% of the public supported amending the constitution to protect the right to end a pregnancy.

And while several other countries include reproductive rights in their constitutions - France is the first to explicitly state that an abortion will be guaranteed.

It becomes the 25th amendment to modern France's founding document, and the first since 2008.

Following the vote, the Eiffel Tower in Paris was lit up in celebration, with the message: "My Body My Choice".
Before the vote, Prime Minister Gabriel Attal told parliament that the right to abortion remained "in danger" and "at the mercy of decision makers".
"We're sending a message to all women: your body belongs to you and no one can decide for you," he added.

The move to enshrine abortion in the French constitution has been welcomed by many.
"This right (to abortion) has retreated in the United States. And so nothing authorised us to think that France was exempt from this risk," said Laura Slimani, from the Fondation des Femmes rights group".

[zqwerty]

I should think so too!  I don't know what's got into parts of America, but I suspect it's an offshoot of Fundamentalist Christianity.

Those hard won gains in the 60's and 70's lost.  Going back into idiocy again.  Probably happening here before too long as well with Luxon in charge.

[Lilith7]

I should think so too!  I don't know what's got into parts of America, but I suspect it's an offshoot of Fundamentalist Christianity.

Those hard won gains in the 60's and 70's lost.  Going back into idiocy again.  Probably happening here before too long as well with Luxon in charge.

Yes, thats what concerns me - too many Christians in govt is worrying. And when you look at past America, & the good things done there, its all the more horrible.

 I've come to the conclusion that no one who is especially religious should be permitted to enter politics, & nor should anyone who's wealthy, because they tend to be so far removed from the reality for most of us.

[zqwerty]

" I've come to the conclusion that no one who is especially religious should be permitted to enter politics, & nor should anyone who's wealthy, because they tend to be so far removed from the reality for most of us."

Yes, sounds like the correct thing to do to avoid continuing present nonsense.

The greedy and the away-in-fairy-land altering our future in the worst way.

[dken31]

I've not heard Macron described as right-wing before. If he is right-wing, that would make pure communism centrist and put Le Pen completely off the scale on the other side.

I think people should only be allowed to vote if they're net tax payers (i.e. they pay more tax than they receive in benefits/pensions/WfF etc.) and MPs should be required to have a minimum IQ of 130.

[king1]

I think people should only be allowed to vote if they're net tax payers (i.e. they pay more tax than they receive in benefits/pensions/WfF etc.) and MPs should be required to have a minimum IQ of 130.

That sounds urrr fair?

[Lilith7]

I've not heard Macron described as right-wing before.  If he is right-wing, that would make pure communism centrist and put Le Pen completely off the scale on the other side.

I think people should only be allowed to vote if they're net tax payers (i.e. they pay more tax than they receive in benefits/pensions/WfF etc.) and MPs should be required to have a minimum IQ of 130.

He may not be as extreme right as Marine le Pen, but he is right wing nonetheless, though with some things slightly more left-ish.


https://www.connexionfrance.com/article/...It-depends

"And there are multiple additional examples: a tax on tech giants; incentives for corporate profit-sharing; a substantial eurozone budget, none of which, other than for the radical left, would qualify as right-wing.

Macron’s earlier political career was on the left
In strict party-political terms, Macron is of the left. He was a Finance Minister under Socialist President François Hollande. 
His political philosophical roots are social-democratic, substantially in the person of Michel Rocard. 

But why bother? Why concern ourselves with the colour of Macron’s political make-up? 


As ever, in a bid to better understand France in all its complexity. And its difference, real and imagined.

So there’s an argument for saying that the moderate left in France, which for some French is the right, is embodied in the person of the current French president. 
Yet, and thankfully, it rather depends on your perspective.







https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanuel...lucksmann/

PARIS — Emmanuel Macron has a new problem. 

"Ever since winning reelection in 2022, his main threat has come from Marine Le Pen’s far-right National Rally, which is surging ahead in the polls.
But now a new challenger on the left of French politics is gaining steam. 
Ahead of June’s European Parliament election, center-left MEP Raphaël Glucksmann is posing a potentially serious danger to the French president’s tribe. 
Now some are asking whether Macron’s tilt to the right to counter the National Rally, on issues such as immigration and pension reform, has cost him vital support on the left. "

Last year’s pension reform, which raised the minimum retirement age, and an immigration bill which the far-right dubbed an “ideological victory,” triggered dissent within Macron’s team and weakened his left-wing credentials.
The government gave in to hardline conservatives on key points including limiting access to social benefits for new immigrants and the end of automatic birthright citizenship, which prompted public criticism from left-leaning cabinet members.'