Kainga Ora, Swarbrick pressures Luxon to resign

[Lilith7]

Chloe Swarbrick has pressured Christopher Luxon to resign if children are made homeless due to his 'get tough' stance  on Kainga Ora housing.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/...9d12&ei=14

"New Green Party co-leader Chlöe Swarbrick's putting pressure on the Prime Minister to resign if any children are made homeless due to his Government's Kāinga Ora policies.
The Government on Monday announced it was taking a tougher stance on unruly Kāinga Ora tenants, including evictions. 

Swarbrick questioned Christopher Luxon in the House on Tuesday about the impact on children living in Kāinga Ora housing - but failed to get a commitment on if he'd put his job on the line.
"Well, we don't actually want to see KO tenants being evicted from KO housing but actually the parents are adults and they have a choice to make about whether they want to meet their obligations and their responsibilities," Luxon said.

Swarbrick pushed again, asking: "Will he resign if any children are made homeless as a result of his Government's policies?"


"There are children that are growing up in motels today that are living on floors of family or friends or in community housing provider housing who actually want a shot and their families want a shot at being able to get into the state house," Luxon responded.

"The problem today is that there is 24,000 people on a state house waitlist which went up four or five times under the previous Government. There are neighbours in those KO communities who are getting abused and I'm sorry but we're standing up for those folk and saying to them 'there are rights and responsibilities in this country'." 
The Greens have previously come out against the policy, with housing spokesperson Tamatha Paul calling it "particularly cruel" for the Government to look at punishing state housing tenants for struggling to pay rent. "

"There are children that are growing up in motels today that are living on floors of family or friends or in community housing provider housing who actually want a shot and their families want a shot at being able to get into the state house," Luxon responded.

"The problem today is that there is 24,000 people on a state house waitlist which went up four or five times under the previous Government. There are neighbours in those KO communities who are getting abused and I'm sorry but we're standing up for those folk and saying to them 'there are rights and responsibilities in this country'." 
The Greens have previously come out against the policy, with housing spokesperson Tamatha Paul calling it "particularly cruel" for the Government to look at punishing state housing tenants for struggling to pay rent. "



https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/...kdown.html


"Evicting more people from Kāinga Ora homes shows the Government is ignorant to the consequences of poverty, the Greens say, but the Housing Minister says state housing is a privilege that can be taken away if abused.

The Government is demanding Kāinga Ora take a tougher stance on unruly social housing tenants, saying the agency needs to make "timely usage" of formal warning notices and relocations under the Residential Tenancies Act, and to "accelerate the process of tenancy termination" in severe and persistent cases.

The Green Party has slammed the policy, saying the it will "result in a proliferation of poverty and trauma across our most vulnerable communities".

Green Party housing spokesperson Tamatha Paul said the Government was seeking to define a category of undeserving poor people.

"Ignorant to the consequences of poverty, people living in state housing are now in the government's firing line.

"Today's announcement that the Government will evict more state housing tenants, despite there being nowhere else for them to go, marks the latest episode in the coalition's series of assaults against people and communities who need support the most."

Speaking to RNZ's Checkpoint, Housing Minister Chris Bishop said anybody evicted from social housing would still have some options.

"They will have to consider a range of accommodation options, as to what they do. Maybe bunking with friends and family, maybe looking to the private rental market if they possibly can. They will have to consider their options."

"Consider their options" - why yes of course, now then will it be the old ramshackle shed with only a few holes in the roof,the abandoned car with one door missing,  or will it be underneath that cosy looking bridge....

[harm_less]

Chloe Swarbrick has pressured Christopher Luxon to resign if children are made homeless due to his 'get tough' stance  on Kainga Ora housing.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/...9d12&ei=14

"New Green Party co-leader Chlöe Swarbrick's putting pressure on the Prime Minister to resign if any children are made homeless due to his Government's Kāinga Ora policies.
The Government on Monday announced it was taking a tougher stance on unruly Kāinga Ora tenants, including evictions. 

Swarbrick questioned Christopher Luxon in the House on Tuesday about the impact on children living in Kāinga Ora housing - but failed to get a commitment on if he'd put his job on the line.
"Well, we don't actually want to see KO tenants being evicted from KO housing but actually the parents are adults and they have a choice to make about whether they want to meet their obligations and their responsibilities," Luxon said.

Swarbrick pushed again, asking: "Will he resign if any children are made homeless as a result of his Government's policies?"


"There are children that are growing up in motels today that are living on floors of family or friends or in community housing provider housing who actually want a shot and their families want a shot at being able to get into the state house," Luxon responded.

"The problem today is that there is 24,000 people on a state house waitlist which went up four or five times under the previous Government. There are neighbours in those KO communities who are getting abused and I'm sorry but we're standing up for those folk and saying to them 'there are rights and responsibilities in this country'." 
The Greens have previously come out against the policy, with housing spokesperson Tamatha Paul calling it "particularly cruel" for the Government to look at punishing state housing tenants for struggling to pay rent. "

"There are children that are growing up in motels today that are living on floors of family or friends or in community housing provider housing who actually want a shot and their families want a shot at being able to get into the state house," Luxon responded.

"The problem today is that there is 24,000 people on a state house waitlist which went up four or five times under the previous Government. There are neighbours in those KO communities who are getting abused and I'm sorry but we're standing up for those folk and saying to them 'there are rights and responsibilities in this country'." 
The Greens have previously come out against the policy, with housing spokesperson Tamatha Paul calling it "particularly cruel" for the Government to look at punishing state housing tenants for struggling to pay rent. "



https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/...kdown.html


"Evicting more people from Kāinga Ora homes shows the Government is ignorant to the consequences of poverty, the Greens say, but the Housing Minister says state housing is a privilege that can be taken away if abused.

The Government is demanding Kāinga Ora take a tougher stance on unruly social housing tenants, saying the agency needs to make "timely usage" of formal warning notices and relocations under the Residential Tenancies Act, and to "accelerate the process of tenancy termination" in severe and persistent cases.

The Green Party has slammed the policy, saying the it will "result in a proliferation of poverty and trauma across our most vulnerable communities".

Green Party housing spokesperson Tamatha Paul said the Government was seeking to define a category of undeserving poor people.

"Ignorant to the consequences of poverty, people living in state housing are now in the government's firing line.

"Today's announcement that the Government will evict more state housing tenants, despite there being nowhere else for them to go, marks the latest episode in the coalition's series of assaults against people and communities who need support the most."

Speaking to RNZ's Checkpoint, Housing Minister Chris Bishop said anybody evicted from social housing would still have some options.

"They will have to consider a range of accommodation options, as to what they do. Maybe bunking with friends and family, maybe looking to the private rental market if they possibly can. They will have to consider their options."

"Consider their options" - why yes of course, now then will it be the old ramshackle shed with only a few holes in the roof,the abandoned car with one door missing,  or will it be underneath that cosy looking bridge....

I heard Luxon referring to Kāinga Ora as "KO" yesterday too. Sheer laziness or playing to his anti Te Reo supporters? Either way his state funded Te Reo lessons were wasted expenditure.

[C_T_Russell]

Good job, these people dont deserve a home, kick them out and let in more deserving people who are on the waiting list.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

These people?

[Lilith7]

Good job, these people dont deserve a home, kick them out and let in more deserving people who are on the waiting list.

What?!

"These people?"

Clearly the 'non woke' have no problem at all with homeless children begging in the street, then. Coming to a street near you,any time now... 

What the hell is wrong with our species, that we can let this happen.

[Olive]

I wonder how many of the "non-woke" are plannng to donate to the various charities such as Auckland City Mission and Orange Sky and Salvation Army, which will be the ones having to deal with the fallout when "these people" and their children are made homeless.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Except, there is one thing lots of people are forgetting. It is unlikely to be families who are evicted. Single tenants are usually the ones responsible for most of the unpleasantness among communities. And usually because they have mental health issues. We see this already among our homeless population, and it seems a little ridiculous to have one team of social workers trying to home these individuals, while another are seeking to unhome them.

We need residential care in some form or another for the independent but mentally ill. Not a rest home, not a prison, not a hospital, but something that combines aspects of these. Managed, purposefully designed, and accessible, so that those challenging souls can be housed, and genuinely needy families can move into the state and social housing that they so desperately need.

And it is possible. We have a set of units close to our village, for transitional housing, with an on site manager, supported by active involvement from service clubs and other vetted capable organisations. We watched it start to operate with some trepidation, but frankly, in the years since it started the problems have been so few as to be meaningless.

We have more issues here, with our own challenging tenants. We need more builds specifically for those who might otherwise be unable to be housed because of their behaviour issues...

[Lilith7]

Except, there is one thing lots of people are forgetting. It is unlikely to be families who are evicted. Single tenants are usually the ones responsible for most of the unpleasantness among communities. And usually because they have mental health issues. We see this already among our homeless population, and it seems a little ridiculous to have one team of social workers trying to home these individuals, while another are seeking to unhome them.

We need residential care in some form or another for the independent but mentally ill. Not a rest home, not a prison, not a hospital, but something that combines aspects of these. Managed, purposefully designed, and accessible, so that those challenging souls can be housed, and genuinely needy families can move into the state and social housing that they so desperately need.

And it is possible. We have a set of units close to our village, for transitional housing, with an on site manager, supported by active involvement from service clubs and other vetted capable organisations. We watched it start to operate with some trepidation, but frankly, in the years since it started the problems have been so few as to be meaningless.

We have more issues here, with our own challenging tenants. We need more builds specifically for those who might otherwise be unable to be housed because of their behaviour issues...

Had those in charge at the time done things properly with adequate buildings & sufficient trained staff, rather than allowing 'care in the community' to instead rapidly become 'homeless people with mental illnesses' we might not be in such dire straits now. Bastard politicians presumably didn't want to spend the money to set it up properly.

And in a similar way, politicians also closed Hanmer & other rehabs which were doing brilliant work so that now, when the addiction problem has worsened, there just aren't enough of them.

[zqwerty]

I remember back in the 80's all or most mental institutions which used to be called lunatic asylums, were mostly closed down and the former inmates were allowed back into the community as "attitudes had changed and they were having their rights infringed by being confined", this was double speak by the neo-right wing to save money on these institutions by just getting rid of them, the result was that lots of people who really couldn't take care of themselves were released into the overall community with predictable results for anyone who has the slightest inkling of what disturbed people are capable of and their resulting struggle due to the combativeness of normal life.

We are still seeing the results of these stupid policies even now as one would expect.

We are supposed to care for members of our society who are unable to care for themselves adequately. If we do, this allows the government to feed money back into the system through paying good wages to specialist experts (mental health workers in general) and as this is done without announcement the businessmen cannot put up their prices automatically as soon as they hear that the government of the day is putting money back into the system to stimulate growth, thus causing inflation if this stimulus is not well disguised from money grubbing businessmen, as we are seeing in the present days, where any growth stimulus is immediately followed by price rises and thus inflation.

Government must regulate, regulate, regulate and start using their minuscule mentalities to run the country instead of following the latest overseas fashions of the day, now thirty years or so, since any attempt has been made to run the country properly rather than just leave it to non-existent theoretical "market forces", hence economies now experiencing runaway inflation due to entrenched power-blocks trying to "fix" the situation but having hidden agendas which only benefit themselves rather than an overview which will help all in the country.

A country cannot be run as a large business, that's only a basic need within the country, more is required than that, ie leadership which is not rooted in a corporate past with profit motives in mind, but one that has a far-seeing outlook for the future, LOL fat chance of that at the moment, and so we bungle on, with the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer just as you would expect with this sort of attitude that somehow market forces will remedy any situation if we just allow them to take over.

[Lilith7]

I remember back in the 80's all or most mental institutions which used to be called lunatic asylums, were mostly closed down and the former inmates were allowed back into the community as "attitudes had changed and they were having their rights infringed by being confined", this was double speak by the neo-right wing to save money on these institutions by just getting rid of them, the result was that lots of people who really couldn't take care of themselves were released into the overall community with predictable results for anyone who has the slightest inkling of what disturbed people are capable of and their resulting struggle due to the combativeness of normal life.

We are still seeing the results of these stupid policies even now as one would expect.

We are supposed to care for members of our society who are unable to care for themselves adequately.  If we do, this allows the government to feed money back into the system through paying good wages to specialist experts (mental health workers in general) and as this is done without announcement the businessmen cannot put up their prices automatically as soon as they hear that the government of the day is putting money back into the system to stimulate growth, thus causing inflation if this stimulus is not well disguised from money grubbing businessmen, as we are seeing in the present days, where any growth stimulus is immediately followed by price rises and thus inflation.

Government must regulate, regulate, regulate and start using their minuscule mentalities to run the country instead of following the latest overseas fashions of the day, now thirty years or so, since any attempt has been made to run the country properly rather than just leave it to non-existent theoretical "market forces", hence economies now experiencing runaway inflation due to entrenched power-blocks trying to "fix" the situation but having hidden agendas which only benefit themselves rather than an overview which will help all in the country.

A country cannot be run as a large business, that's only a basic need within the country, more is required than that, ie leadership which is not rooted in a corporate past with profit motives in mind, but one that has a far-seeing outlook for the future, LOL fat chance of that at the moment, and so we bungle on, with the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer just as you would expect with this sort of attitude that somehow market forces will remedy any situation if we just allow them to take over.

And that in a nutshell, is the problem with greed based neo Liberalism. Profit above all else & if it causes pain & problems for some - or even many - well, that's their own fault for not exercising 'personal responsibility'.
Its time govt here (& in other countries which went down the same road) changed their ideas & worked to put things right, properly so that everyone benefits. Politicians must be made to understand that their job is to ensure the well being of everyone, not just the wealthy.

In fact imo it would be no bad thing to make it illegal for any extremely wealthy person to become a politician since they cannot have the least idea of the reality of everyday life for ordinary people.

[C_T_Russell]

Good job, these people dont deserve a home, kick them out and let in more deserving people who are on the waiting list.

What?!

"These people?"

Clearly the 'non woke' have no problem at all with homeless children begging in the street, then. Coming to a street near you,any time now... 

What the hell is wrong with our species, that we can let this happen.

You think it's OK to let these dole blugders who are trashing property and abusing the neighbors to stay?
Would you want them as neighbors?
There is a reason nobody wants to live near a social housing area.
Unfortunately they are putting them up everywhere now, which means it's hard to escape being next to one these days.
Who pays every time they trash a house? You do.
If they are not responsible parents, they should take the kids and put them into a foster home until the parents sort their shit out and get off the booze etc. Might be what they need to turn their lives around?