Winston's strategy

[harm_less]

Interesting suggestion I've read this morning is the possibility that Winston is putting things in place to crash the coalition in 6 months time when the DPM role chages to Seymour. https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/36050231...struggling

Note too that Chippy is improving his image, visibility and presentation of late. (e.g. running half marathons, new suit, increased media presence)

[king1]

I suppose if Winny were really disappointed with the direction we're headed in then yes it would provide a perfect opportunity. But having said that, why wait? what benefit other than another month or so of DPM on his resume.

Maybe labour have been whispering in his ear, trying to sabotage the coalition? He does seem to be getting a bit old and tired now days, sentences don't seem to be coming out the right way for him sometimes.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

The thought of Seymour as DPM is rather scary when you consider the international contacts. At least Winston knows how to do that stuff.

[harm_less]

The thought of Seymour as DPM is rather scary when you consider the international contacts. At least Winston knows how to do that stuff.

The mantle of Foreign Minister doesn't necessarily have to follow that of DPM though. Just consider Winston deprived of his overseas junkets and being left at a loose end rattling around in parliament. That's truly scary!

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Well, yes, unless of course he was getting up to mischief in the Cabinet. I am sure he knows where the ticklish spots are by now.

And an early election would make 2025 interesting.

[nzoomed]

The thought of Seymour as DPM is rather scary when you consider the international contacts. At least Winston knows how to do that stuff.

I dont think this will affect his role as international affairs, i find it interesting how he has kept this position regardless what government he has been involved in.
The thing to watch going forward will be his approach to the treaty principles bill, his position is that there are no treaty principles, and im hearing he is proposing an alternative bill to scrap them entirely.
That will ruffle a few feathers for sure.

[Olive]

The thought of Seymour as DPM is rather scary when you consider the international contacts. At least Winston knows how to do that stuff.

I dont think this will affect his role as international affairs, i find it interesting how he has kept this position regardless what government he has been involved in.
The thing to watch going forward will be his approach to the treaty principles bill, his position is that there are no treaty principles, and im hearing he is proposing an alternative bill to scrap them entirely.
That will ruffle a few feathers for sure.

I think Peters has maintained his Foreign Affairs role because he does know how to behave in a dignified manner when it is called for.  He's well dressed and knows what to do with his hands (e.g. don't clamp other people's shoulders or do double handshakes).   He can act the part very well and I don't suppose anyone from other countries ever looks at Question Time to see him making an arse of himself.

[nzoomed]

I dont think this will affect his role as international affairs, i find it interesting how he has kept this position regardless what government he has been involved in.
The thing to watch going forward will be his approach to the treaty principles bill, his position is that there are no treaty principles, and im hearing he is proposing an alternative bill to scrap them entirely.
That will ruffle a few feathers for sure.

I think Peters has maintained his Foreign Affairs role because he does know how to behave in a dignified manner when it is called for.  He's well dressed and knows what to do with his hands (e.g. don't clamp other people's shoulders or do double handshakes).   He can act the part very well and I don't suppose anyone from other countries ever looks at Question Time to see him making an arse of himself.

Yeah I agree, largely he manages it quite well and I guess its a position that suits him.
Question time with him is always entertaining.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

I dont think this will affect his role as international affairs, i find it interesting how he has kept this position regardless what government he has been involved in.
The thing to watch going forward will be his approach to the treaty principles bill, his position is that there are no treaty principles, and im hearing he is proposing an alternative bill to scrap them entirely.
That will ruffle a few feathers for sure.

I think Peters has maintained his Foreign Affairs role because he does know how to behave in a dignified manner when it is called for.  He's well dressed and knows what to do with his hands (e.g. don't clamp other people's shoulders or do double handshakes).   He can act the part very well and I don't suppose anyone from other countries ever looks at Question Time to see him making an arse of himself.

And we let Seymour get away with gaslighting, Luxon treat us like customers who have other choices, and the stuff the other MPs bought and paid for by their lobbyist bosses are up too with the things we rely on. Like our health system...

Bring on AI.

[Lilith7]

I think Peters has maintained his Foreign Affairs role because he does know how to behave in a dignified manner when it is called for.  He's well dressed and knows what to do with his hands (e.g. don't clamp other people's shoulders or do double handshakes).   He can act the part very well and I don't suppose anyone from other countries ever looks at Question Time to see him making an arse of himself.

And we let Seymour get away with gaslighting, Luxon treat us like customers who have other choices, and the stuff the other MPs bought and paid for by their lobbyist bosses are up too with the things we rely on. Like our health system...

Bring on AI.

Winston had always been slightly tricky but he's the most experienced of them; Luxon is a businessman who gives the impression of only being in it for the experience of being PM & Seymour is a devious weasel (apologies to weasels eveywhere) who lacks experience & seems unable to see past his divisive Neo Liberalism.

I think that, over all they're doing extremely well.

There's now an excellent chance they'll be a one term govt; the best we can hope for is that they'll do the least amount of damage before the next election....