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This is a good move, could probably work well elsewhere too. It makes good sense too to have the rent adjustable depending on the family's circumstances.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/05/29/whana...able-home/
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This is what saved me. I really really wish everyone who needs it had access to the privileges I enjoy in pensioner social housing. Honestly, it makes living on a limited income possible.
Truth is, we just do not know what the future holds for us, and this safety net is an absolute gift when the world collapses around us.
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(29-05-2025, 05:10 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: This is what saved me. I really really wish everyone who needs it had access to the privileges I enjoy in pensioner social housing. Honestly, it makes living on a limited income possible.
Truth is, we just do not know what the future holds for us, and this safety net is an absolute gift when the world collapses around us.
Yes; you'd think that any govt with the well being of all its people as a priority, might just manage to make good quality housing (as opposed to flimsy little rabbit hutches) a priority.
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Unfortunately those who are in power, some of whom have even said they have already got it made, Luxon, are still continuing to money grub and don't want to stop and make decisions which would help those in the country in a lower socioeconomic group, the attitude is that everyone is on their own and devil take the hindmost, and if they are down on money then it is their own fault and they are probably lazy.
Luxon and others are just helping their mates in the old boys club just as they always have done which reinforces the inequalities between the rich and the poor and exacerbates the historic problem of unequal sharing of the riches in the country by the management system being tweaked to favour the privileged which they do quite willingly and without conscience as a right they have claimed as their own.
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(30-05-2025, 12:57 PM)zqwerty Wrote: Unfortunately those who are in power, some of whom have even said they have already got it made, Luxon, are still continuing to money grub and don't want to stop and make decisions which would help those in the country in a lower socioeconomic group, the attitude is that everyone is on their own and devil take the hindmost, and if they are down on money then it is their own fault and they are probably lazy.
Luxon and others are just helping their mates in the old boys club just as they always have done which reinforces the inequalities between the rich and the poor and exacerbates the historic problem of unequal sharing of the riches in the country by the management system being tweaked to favour the privileged which they do quite willingly and without conscience as a right they have claimed as their own.
pretty sure jacinda is a multi millionaire now, she got her share of the riches
all housing costs money in fact social housing probably costs more per m2 than a "normal" house build
who actually paid for the iwi housing? not saying its not a good idea but considering the amount of taxpayer money getting into the hands of iwi leaders there shouldn’t be a homeless Maori in NZ
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(30-05-2025, 02:36 PM)heisenberg Wrote: (30-05-2025, 12:57 PM)zqwerty Wrote: Unfortunately those who are in power, some of whom have even said they have already got it made, Luxon, are still continuing to money grub and don't want to stop and make decisions which would help those in the country in a lower socioeconomic group, the attitude is that everyone is on their own and devil take the hindmost, and if they are down on money then it is their own fault and they are probably lazy.
Luxon and others are just helping their mates in the old boys club just as they always have done which reinforces the inequalities between the rich and the poor and exacerbates the historic problem of unequal sharing of the riches in the country by the management system being tweaked to favour the privileged which they do quite willingly and without conscience as a right they have claimed as their own.
pretty sure jacinda is a multi millionaire now, she got her share of the riches
all housing costs money in fact social housing probably costs more per m2 than a "normal" house build
who actually paid for the iwi housing? not saying its not a good idea but considering the amount of taxpayer money getting into the hands of iwi leaders there shouldn’t be a homeless Maori in NZ
Housing in NZ should,imo be made a priority. It was not always like this. It does not have to be like this.
Other countries have done & so could we. If a govt wanted to. If a govt wasn't hell bent on imposing yet more cruel, greed based Neo Liberalism.
Finland managed it.
https://www.theguardian.com/housing-netw...sing-first
"What is Housing First?
Housing First means ending homelessness instead of managing it. The basic idea is to offer permanent housing and needs-based support for homeless people instead of temporary accommodation in hostels or in emergency shelters. Permanent housing means an independent rental flat with own rental contract.
In Housing First people do not have to earn their right to housing by proving their capability to manage their lives. Instead, they are provided with a stable home and individually tailored support.
How has it worked in Finland?
Since 2008 the national homelessness strategy in Finland has been based on the Housing First model, as a result of dedicated cooperation between the state, municipalities and NGOs.
Investments have been made to provide affordable housing and shelters have been converted into supported housing units. New services and methods of help have been developed to match the multiple needs of individual tenants.
Finland has all but eradicated rough sleeping and sustainably housed a significant number of long-term homeless people. Finland is the only country in Europe where the number of homeless people has declined in recent years."
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Should we send all our homeless to finland?
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(30-05-2025, 03:15 PM)heisenberg Wrote: Should we send all our homeless to finland?
Perhaps we should import their govt.
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(30-05-2025, 03:15 PM)heisenberg Wrote: Should we send all our homeless to finland?
cost less to deal with the problem here I would think...
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30-05-2025, 06:26 PM
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Why does social housing cost more to build?
(30-05-2025, 03:34 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: (30-05-2025, 03:15 PM)heisenberg Wrote: Should we send all our homeless to finland?
Perhaps we should import their govt.
Which happens to have a helluva lot of wimmin in leadership roles...
Just sayin;...
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(30-05-2025, 06:26 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Why does social housing cost more to build?
(30-05-2025, 03:34 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: Perhaps we should import their govt.
Which happens to have a helluva lot of wimmin in leadership roles...
Just sayin;... 
we have a lot of wimmins in leadership roles here as well, like the one who sunk our ship and the one who killed our economy then ran away
Social housings costs more for a few reasons, always top spec because whoever has designed it isnt paying for it, lots more ticket clippers in the mix
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