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Vaccinations kill two
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(21-12-2021, 11:26 PM)Kacee Wrote:
(21-12-2021, 05:29 AM)Magoo Wrote: his sacrifice goes towards the protection of us all.

How does his 'sacrifice' go towards your protection, did you live in the same house, next door?  He certainly didn't have to sacrifice himself for me, I take self responsibility for my own 'safety' as should every intelligent, healthy, able bodied person.


(21-12-2021, 08:55 PM)Magoo Wrote: so many second hand accounts and anecdotal hearsay, seems everyone has a story or knows someone.
but its never documented, which makes it dangerous speculation at best and misinformation at worst.

sounds more like gossip than science.
  You are lucky not knowing anyone to have a severe reaction.  A local 35 year old died a few days after her jab but, of course, it was 'coincidental' as was another friend who spent time in hospital, at specialists etc. for her heart problems.  My sister was advised not to have the booster, it has taken her weeks to start regaining her health---not heart problems.
i cannot believe you are serious. he died getting the vaccine. he wasnt a whining scardey cat little bitch about it. he knew that to reach  critical mass to halt the spread of the virus and its variants we all need to be vaccinated.
like an educated, responsible caring person he went down to get his shot. he was healthy and low risk, he wasnt doing it for himself . ffs.

instead of quoting some facts you double down on stupid and tell another unsubstantiated story.
i dont consider myself lucky not to know anyone with a severe reaction because there arent any. just gossipy second hand accounts and misinformation scare tactics by the gutless parasite antivaxxers.  if this horseshit was true the media would be onto it as would the government, it would be documented and recorded. it isnt. stop telling fairytales. grow up.

these stories are lies and misinformation perpetuated by the ignorant, those that retell these fallacies are liars pure and simple. show me the documentation or shut up and stop bullshitting.

(21-12-2021, 09:46 PM)harm_less Wrote:
(21-12-2021, 08:55 PM)Magoo Wrote: so many second hand accounts and anecdotal hearsay, seems everyone has a story or knows someone.
but its never documented, which makes it dangerous speculation at best and misinformation at worst.

sounds more like gossip than science.
I requested inclusion of inflammatory markers in a set of blood tests I had done a couple of weeks after my 2nd vaccination. I'm recovering from cancer treatment this time last year so blood tests are a regular occurrence for me currently.

CRP was 28mg/L (normal is <5). Result was flagged but put down to being due to recent vaccination. The C19 vax definitely gives your immune response a kick resulting in an inflammatory response. That's not speculation, it's medical test result fact.

The people giving evidence at this US Senate hearing on vaccine injuries got unlucky in the extent of their vaccine side effects. For me the decision to get vaccinated was based on comparative risk assessment between vaccine side effect likelihood compared to contracting COVID. I went in with as many bases covered as I could in that I micro-dosed with aspirin prior to the vax to mitigate any clotting risk, I insisted that the syringe was aspirated to ensure injection was into muscle and not blood vessel and I hydrated copiously for several days following the vax. Still got the inflammatory result as tested and still getting inflammatory gut issues under control 10 weeks later.

Booster next year? We'll see Undecided
all due respect harmless, you are vulnerable due to a co-morbidity with cancer. all that talk was confusing and only applicable to your situation, not everyone else.
 80 million shots, extremely rare side effects, even rarer occurrence of death. millions of lives saved.
thats all a lay person needs to know. 
you do not know if any of the symptoms you displayed were due to the vaccine. cancer meds, cancer itself, too many bonbons. so many sources of discomfort to narrow it down to just the vaccine. sure the science sounds credible but unless it is not being recorded in monitored case study or for later peer review it remains anecdotal.

(21-12-2021, 09:36 PM)Zurdo Wrote: A friend of mine spent 3 weeks in hospital after the first shot...there was a whole ward of people like him he said. Much more common than they are reporting. 3 months later and he's still having problems. He's not antivax, but telling people to seriously think about it before getting it. If he wasn't vaccinated he'd be fit and healthy...and be able to mow his lawns.
another friend. another story.

(21-12-2021, 09:18 PM)king1 Wrote: folks with medical issues, with the vaccine and otherwise, are actually able to apply for a vaccine exemption and if granted obtain a vaccine pass
for the extremely rare occurrence by all means, get yourself the pass. stats showing less than 0.0004% of our population to be in this position. less than a hundred souls, rare indeed. the applications for exemption number in the thousands.
get yourself an exemption, stay unvaccinated, but stay the hell away from us, my grandkids dont have a magic exemption to make them special, they remain just as vulnerable. you might be exempt but you are still unvaccinated. the threat to us is not mitigated by your little certificate
go ahead, get an exemption, but the same restrictions should apply to you as any unvaccinated person. segregation, no travel, no movies, constant testing. i cannot see a valid reason to treat you any differently.

(21-12-2021, 04:35 PM)Outsider Wrote:
(19-12-2021, 04:12 PM)harm_less Wrote: Latest MedSafe report of adverse effects following vaccination HERE. Most common Adverse events of special interest is heart or heart membrane inflammation (Myocarditis/pericarditis) followed by Shingles. Seeing as how the vaccine stimulates the immune system these side effects are not unexpected I guess; inflammatory response and re-emergence of an existing latent virus respectively.

Also worth noting that in regard to the fatalities recorded (which may or may not be vaccine caused): "To date, the observed number of deaths reported after vaccination is actually less than the expected number of natural deaths."

I phoned the doctor's surgery 5 days after my 2nd jab as I'd had shortness of breath after 4 days and wanted to know if it should be reported. Only a nurse was there during lockdown and she said it wouldn't be anything to with the vaccination as it would have happened straight after if that was the case, rather than 4 days later. I had another 2 episodes of shortness of breath and extreme fatigue over the next 10 days but didn't think it was worthwhile phoning back. I'm now in my 7th week of Shingles! I think there must be lots of cases that are not being reported.

I will have to see my GP in the New Year as I'm now not sure whether I should have the booster.
the nurse was right. why you wouldnt listen to a health professional says all i need to know.
i get shortness of breath. walking up a hill will do it. i also get shortness of breath when exposed to kapok or fine fiberglass dust. when i have a cold i get shortness of breath and a bit chesty and weezy.
blaming the vaccine is handy, and suits a narrative but again anecdotal antiscience  just another bedtime story .
So if you disappear out of view You know I will never say goodbye
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Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 19-12-2021, 03:45 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by harm_less - 19-12-2021, 04:12 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Outsider - 21-12-2021, 04:35 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by harm_less - 21-12-2021, 08:04 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Oh_hunnihunni - 19-12-2021, 05:36 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by harm_less - 19-12-2021, 06:59 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by C_T_Russell - 20-12-2021, 01:02 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 20-12-2021, 01:22 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Praktica - 20-12-2021, 02:40 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 20-12-2021, 02:44 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by TygerTung - 20-12-2021, 02:55 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Kacee - 20-12-2021, 11:51 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 21-12-2021, 05:29 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 21-12-2021, 07:15 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 21-12-2021, 07:29 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Lilith7 - 21-12-2021, 01:27 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Oh_hunnihunni - 21-12-2021, 09:27 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by C_T_Russell - 21-12-2021, 10:31 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Praktica - 21-12-2021, 11:11 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 21-12-2021, 11:36 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by TygerTung - 21-12-2021, 10:22 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Oh_hunnihunni - 21-12-2021, 11:18 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Oh_hunnihunni - 21-12-2021, 01:37 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Lilith7 - 21-12-2021, 02:51 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 21-12-2021, 03:51 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Lilith7 - 21-12-2021, 03:55 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 21-12-2021, 04:01 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Lilith7 - 21-12-2021, 04:03 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 21-12-2021, 08:55 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by harm_less - 21-12-2021, 09:46 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Kacee - 21-12-2021, 11:26 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 03:19 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Outsider - 22-12-2021, 07:32 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by harm_less - 22-12-2021, 07:41 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 07:42 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Lilith7 - 22-12-2021, 10:41 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 21-12-2021, 09:18 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by harm_less - 21-12-2021, 09:36 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Zurdo - 21-12-2021, 09:36 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 21-12-2021, 09:49 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 07:34 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 08:40 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by harm_less - 22-12-2021, 09:22 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 08:13 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Oh_hunnihunni - 22-12-2021, 09:16 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 09:48 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 09:25 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 10:08 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by harm_less - 22-12-2021, 10:14 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Oh_hunnihunni - 22-12-2021, 09:57 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 10:12 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 09:59 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 10:14 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 10:50 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 11:22 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Olive - 22-12-2021, 10:24 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 10:42 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Olive - 22-12-2021, 11:05 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 11:23 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 11:42 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by harm_less - 22-12-2021, 11:38 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 11:48 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 11:52 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 12:09 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 11:53 AM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 12:02 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by harm_less - 22-12-2021, 12:05 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 12:29 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 12:43 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 12:47 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by king1 - 22-12-2021, 12:57 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Lilith7 - 22-12-2021, 01:09 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Olive - 22-12-2021, 01:46 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 01:10 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by crafters_corner - 22-12-2021, 01:29 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by C_T_Russell - 22-12-2021, 01:15 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 01:38 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Magoo - 22-12-2021, 01:48 PM
RE: Vaccinations kill two - by Oh_hunnihunni - 22-12-2021, 01:50 PM

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