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Pick the winner... - Oh_hunnihunni - 14-10-2023
I'm going out on a limb and calling it a Left victory by the skin of all their teeth.
What say you fellow citizens?
RE: Pick the winner... - Praktica - 14-10-2023
The election night seat count is usually shifted to the left by 2 or 3 seats after the specials are counted.
RE: Pick the winner... - alpha111 - 14-10-2023
The first person that I voted for was Mabel Howard. She was a hard case. But Arnie put cigarettes up in the Black Budget and Labour lost the electionn in 1960.
RE: Pick the winner... - zqwerty - 14-10-2023
Left I hope.
RE: Pick the winner... - Lilith7 - 14-10-2023
(14-10-2023, 08:42 AM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: I'm going out on a limb and calling it a Left victory by the skin of all their teeth.
What say you fellow citizens?
I've voted & rarked up all the grandkids to vote, so I hope so - {edited} https://tmmb.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?tid=2623&pid=48681#pid48681.
RE: Pick the winner... - Oh_hunnihunni - 14-10-2023
The young and the old, it's those buggers in the middle we have to watch, lol...
RE: Pick the winner... - king1 - 14-10-2023
Early votes are coming in and it looks like National is getting good support initially, might be change in the wind
RE: Pick the winner... - Oh_hunnihunni - 14-10-2023
Giving me wind, that is for sure...
RE: Pick the winner... - nzoomed - 14-10-2023
Much more support for National than I was expecting, smaller parties are pretty close to the recent polls we have had.
RE: Pick the winner... - Wainuiguy - 14-10-2023
Won't drift much now. Labour are gone - huzzahhh!
RE: Pick the winner... - harm_less - 14-10-2023
(14-10-2023, 07:31 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Won't drift much now. Labour are gone - huzzahhh!If so just hope that National's vote is strong enough to keep Winston out of the picture.
RE: Pick the winner... - Oh_hunnihunni - 14-10-2023
Te pati Maori doing so well...
RE: Pick the winner... - Wainuiguy - 14-10-2023
(14-10-2023, 07:48 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Te pati Maori doing so well...
Devastating Labour which is great to see. Greens pretty much as usual actual result well below what they poll.
RE: Pick the winner... - yousnoozeyoulose - 14-10-2023
Gone pretty much to script. TPM going well. Greens gradual takeover of the city electorates continues.
Not sure what Winnie is going to do if he ends up in Parliament without any sort of power.
RE: Pick the winner... - Oh_hunnihunni - 14-10-2023
(14-10-2023, 07:55 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote:(14-10-2023, 07:48 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Te pati Maori doing so well...
Devastating Labour which is great to see. Greens pretty much as usual actual result well below what they poll.
Unusual too, seeing they usually achieve above poll predictions. Oh well, grin and bear it time, lol.
RE: Pick the winner... - C_T_Russell - 14-10-2023
(14-10-2023, 07:31 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Won't drift much now. Labour are gone - huzzahhh!Good riddance to labour, and National into the early 40s is a positive sign.
(14-10-2023, 07:40 PM)harm_less Wrote:I'm really hoping NZF can still form a part of this govt, but nevertheless, they are going to expose all the corruption we have had to deal with Labour.(14-10-2023, 07:31 PM)Wainuiguy Wrote: Won't drift much now. Labour are gone - huzzahhh!If so just hope that National's vote is strong enough to keep Winston out of the picture.
(14-10-2023, 07:48 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: Te pati Maori doing so well...
Looks like they are stealing them all off labour.
Bit strange how the media are saying they felt let down by labour. I beg to differ, I would say most the maori votes shifted to the maori party as a result of most voters feeling that labour was going to loose and that they would have better influence representing the maori party.
I always thought that the maori voters were happy with their labour MPs.
RE: Pick the winner... - Oh_hunnihunni - 14-10-2023
It isn't about that. It is a reflection of the growing strength in the Maori independence movement. It's about Mana, making the choice for Maori above traditional politics. Greens similar thing, not against the major left party, but towards a new way of doing things.
Not stealing, choosing a new way. Both major parties should take note.
RE: Pick the winner... - C_T_Russell - 14-10-2023
(14-10-2023, 08:51 PM)Oh_hunnihunni Wrote: It isn't about that. It is a reflection of the growing strength in the Maori independence movement. It's about Mana, making the choice for Maori above traditional politics. Greens similar thing, not against the major left party, but towards a new way of doing things.
Not stealing, choosing a new way. Both major parties should take note.
Maybe so, lots of maori elite in labor that are compromised. Seems they were saying tonight that maori felt let down by Willie Jackson for example.
Speaking of the maori seats, I don't understand what they are meaning by overhang if the maori party win more seats. How does it cause there to be more seats in parliament if the seat switches from labour to maori?
RE: Pick the winner... - harm_less - 14-10-2023
(14-10-2023, 08:11 PM)yousnoozeyoulose Wrote: Gone pretty much to script. TPM going well. Greens gradual takeover of the city electorates continues.
Not sure what Winnie is going to do if he ends up in Parliament without any sort of power.
Just make a nuisence of himself as per normal
RE: Pick the winner... - yousnoozeyoulose - 14-10-2023
Hmm, with the current overhang and the Nat % slowly ticking downwards, Winston could become quite impactful all of a sudden. There's a chance of a little disruption in parliament...
Nice to see Nicola Willis not winning Ohariu. High profile but yet to win an electorate, which shows just how unlikeable she really is.