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The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - TinkandTiff - 16-06-2024
Worth watching. Husband and I watched it today. An interesting watch.
Anyone else seen it?
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - Lilith7 - 20-06-2024
That's very concerning.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350072694/former-mp-and-alleged-chinese-spy-anointed-mentee-successor
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - king1 - 20-06-2024
just finished watching it now, probably could have been condensed a bit, but certainly highlights a major issue for NZ and presumably other western nations...
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - Oh_hunnihunni - 20-06-2024
I think examining the backgrounds of our MPs of any party reveals some very interesting connections, mentorships, and links that could be seen as distinctly dicey.
Just one of my locals - East Coast Bays, boy there's been some names through that local office...
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - harm_less - 20-06-2024
Interesting presentation. The Falun Gong woman whose tyres were allegedly slashed had good reason to not trust the NZ Police it seems.
I'm now wondering how naive Luxon was in his anti-North Korea and China rhetoric while Japan. He was definitely sticking his head above the parapets, probably oblivious to the potential risks in doing so.
With NZ's population projected to be over 30% Asian immigrants, predominantly from China, within the forseeable future the situation will only deepen I feel.
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - Oh_hunnihunni - 21-06-2024
We have been the retirement home for wealthy Chinese for a while now. Till Winston got shirty and changed the timeline for Super...
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - Lilith7 - 21-06-2024
Watching that report, I wondered if perhaps its a similar story in most,if not every country & if perhaps China's long term plan includes ruling the entire world..
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - harm_less - 21-06-2024
(21-06-2024, 11:54 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: Watching that report, I wondered if perhaps its a similar story in most,if not every country & if perhaps China's long term plan includes ruling the entire world..China has a far longer term view in regard to its strategies than do the Western powers. 3 or 4 year electoral terms don't help us and China is far more skilled at playing the long game. This doco series (of 3 episodes) is worth watching to better understand the issues at play.
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - Lilith7 - 21-06-2024
(21-06-2024, 12:04 PM)harm_less Wrote:(21-06-2024, 11:54 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: Watching that report, I wondered if perhaps its a similar story in most,if not every country & if perhaps China's long term plan includes ruling the entire world..China has a far longer term view in regard to its strategies than do the Western powers. 3 or 4 year electoral terms don't help us and China is far more skilled at playing the long game. This doco series (of 3 episodes) is worth watching to better understand the issues at play.
An interesting, if somewhat potentially terrifying look at China.
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - Lilith7 - 22-06-2024
Just came across this...
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350317424/red-flags-experts-concern-over-nz-security-company-takeover
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - nzoomed - 22-06-2024
(20-06-2024, 08:56 PM)king1 Wrote: just finished watching it now, probably could have been condensed a bit, but certainly highlights a major issue for NZ and presumably other western nations...
Agreed, Australia has been facing the same issues too.
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - Lilith7 - 23-06-2024
Former Chinese consulate member. "You can do everything by money."
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350318489/former-chinese-consulate-general-staffer-claims-ongoing-surveillance-after-escape
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - zqwerty - 23-06-2024
Frightening and scary.
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - harm_less - 23-06-2024
(23-06-2024, 11:17 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: Former Chinese consulate member. "You can do everything by money."From a business trip we made to China in 2012 with a (non-Chinese) interpreter it was obvious then that the Chinese population was heavily indoctrinated with the Chinese infrastructure and social foundations being the 'biggest, best, highest, oldest, fastest, etc.' Also the sheer scale of what we saw there made it feel that New Zealand was minuscule in comparison and that China could 'buy and sell New Zealand before breakfast' and hardly notice. Cities 2 hours drive apart with populations of >11 million and >26 million respectively was definitely an eye opening perspective for us.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350318489/former-chinese-consulate-general-staffer-claims-ongoing-surveillance-after-escape
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - Lilith7 - 23-06-2024
(23-06-2024, 11:53 AM)harm_less Wrote:(23-06-2024, 11:17 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: Former Chinese consulate member. "You can do everything by money."From a business trip we made to China in 2012 with a (non-Chinese) interpreter it was obvious then that the Chinese population was heavily indoctrinated with the Chinese infrastructure and social foundations being the 'biggest, best, highest, oldest, fastest, etc.' Also the sheer scale of what we saw there made it feel that New Zealand was minuscule in comparison and that China could 'buy and sell New Zealand before breakfast' and hardly notice. Cities 2 hours drive apart with populations of >11 million and >26 million respectively was definitely an eye opening perspective for us.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350318489/former-chinese-consulate-general-staffer-claims-ongoing-surveillance-after-escape
Yeah...I'm quite frequently extremely grateful to various ancestors for having the sense to emigrate here rather than America, & having seen that & read a bit I'm also quite pleased not to have been born in China. Poor people; it seems only slighty better than North Korea.
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - harm_less - 23-06-2024
(23-06-2024, 03:36 PM)Lilith7 Wrote:China has plenty of their population that are quite content with their lot in life. With over 800 billionaires in China it can in no way be compared to the economic and draconian cot case that is North Korea.(23-06-2024, 11:53 AM)harm_less Wrote: From a business trip we made to China in 2012 with a (non-Chinese) interpreter it was obvious then that the Chinese population was heavily indoctrinated with the Chinese infrastructure and social foundations being the 'biggest, best, highest, oldest, fastest, etc.' Also the sheer scale of what we saw there made it feel that New Zealand was minuscule in comparison and that China could 'buy and sell New Zealand before breakfast' and hardly notice. Cities 2 hours drive apart with populations of >11 million and >26 million respectively was definitely an eye opening perspective for us.
Yeah...I'm quite frequently extremely grateful to various ancestors for having the sense to emigrate here rather than America, & having seen that & read a bit I'm also quite pleased not to have been born in China. Poor people; it seems only slighty better than North Korea.
This Guyon Espiner interview this afternoon provides great insight into our likely coming decades. Succinct and confronting international commentary and predictions.
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - Lilith7 - 23-06-2024
Although they are very different, both govts have a large amount of control over the people & tend to be quite ruthless in exercising it.
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - harm_less - 25-06-2024
This doco struck a nerve it seems https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350322040/chinas-embassy-hits-back-foreign-interference-claims-warns-journalists-not
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - king1 - 25-06-2024
(25-06-2024, 09:11 PM)harm_less Wrote: This doco struck a nerve it seems https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350322040/chinas-embassy-hits-back-foreign-interference-claims-warns-journalists-not
Love the comment from our Foreign Minister
Quote:“That’s all I can say. You’re having an argument with a foreign Government now, aren’t you... Nothing to do with me,” Peters said.
So your job is?
RE: The Long Game - Stuff Circuit Doco - Lilith7 - 26-06-2024
(25-06-2024, 11:09 PM)king1 Wrote:(25-06-2024, 09:11 PM)harm_less Wrote: This doco struck a nerve it seems https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350322040/chinas-embassy-hits-back-foreign-interference-claims-warns-journalists-not
Love the comment from our Foreign Minister
Quote:“That’s all I can say. You’re having an argument with a foreign Government now, aren’t you... Nothing to do with me,” Peters said.
So your job is?
That would be ducking & diving, obviously...
