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(11-01-2025, 04:42 PM)zqwerty Wrote: Collage of LA Fires (The dog was saved)
https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1..._la_fires/
Los Angeles wildfires captured by satellite
https://i.redd.it/03x6wf2zv7ce1.png
thanks for posting those.
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11-01-2025, 09:40 PM
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Apparently a situation similar to what this article is claiming is currently happening in that Australia and the US rely on leasing each other's firefighting heavy equipment during fire seasons so quite a bit of LA's gear is currently in Oz, it being their off season for fires.
https://australianaviation.com.au/2025/0...-aircraft/
TVNZ tonight reported that the mayor of LA is planning on a strong and swift rebuild of the fire destroyed areas of the city but who in their right mind would rebuild in what has been referenced as a high fire risk area by insurance companies and therefore will be very expensive to insure, if insurance is even available?
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2025-...-insurance
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That's going to make things difficult if America & Australia are unable to share fore fighting equipment.
Perhaps any rebuild might include whatever are the latest precautions are for fires. Its horrible to think of it but perhaps surrounding houses with large areas of concrete & having some sort of sprinkler system on every house roof, or whatever the experts can come up with in case of any future fires, which there surely will be.
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(11-01-2025, 09:40 PM)harm_less Wrote: TVNZ tonight reported that the mayor of LA is planning on a strong and swift rebuild of the fire destroyed areas of the city but who in their right mind would rebuild in what has been referenced as a high fire risk area by insurance companies and therefore will be very expensive to insure, if insurance is even available?
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2025-...-insurance As predicted: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/538918/...eles-fires
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(14-01-2025, 01:03 PM)harm_less Wrote: (11-01-2025, 09:40 PM)harm_less Wrote: TVNZ tonight reported that the mayor of LA is planning on a strong and swift rebuild of the fire destroyed areas of the city but who in their right mind would rebuild in what has been referenced as a high fire risk area by insurance companies and therefore will be very expensive to insure, if insurance is even available?
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2025-...-insurance As predicted: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/538918/...eles-fires
That didn't take long. I'd bet that the claim won't be settled as swiftly...
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(09-01-2025, 06:02 PM)Olive Wrote: Apparently Musk is blaming DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) practices in California. He asserts that DEI is the reason for the shortage of fire fighters. He really is getting way too big for his boots. This part is true, there was a lack of firefighters because of this.
(10-01-2025, 10:54 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: It seems that there were budget cuts prior to this lot of fires...
And their water hydrants ran dry. Poor people.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-...dget-cuts/ Need to ask why this was in the most democratic state there is and under Bidens administration, very convenient that the water reservoir was empty for "maintenance"
(10-01-2025, 02:26 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: (10-01-2025, 12:48 PM)zqwerty Wrote: More than 10 years ago and further back there were predictions made about wildfires along the western slopes of the Rocky Mountains and it was said that if this happened it would be proof that Global Warming was happening.
As you can see this surmise was correct.
And no doubt there will still somehow be those who claim that its all nonsense...
The wolrd is a weird place. And humans are crazy.
Cuz it is nonsense, let's not fingerpoint the illegal aliens that were arrested for starting it, but blame it all on global warming.
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(23-01-2025, 08:01 AM)C_T_Russell Wrote: (09-01-2025, 06:02 PM)Olive Wrote: Apparently Musk is blaming DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) practices in California. He asserts that DEI is the reason for the shortage of fire fighters. He really is getting way too big for his boots. This part is true, there was a lack of firefighters because of this.
(10-01-2025, 10:54 AM)Lilith7 Wrote: It seems that there were budget cuts prior to this lot of fires...
And their water hydrants ran dry. Poor people.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-...dget-cuts/ Need to ask why this was in the most democratic state there is and under Bidens administration, very convenient that the water reservoir was empty for "maintenance"
(10-01-2025, 02:26 PM)Lilith7 Wrote: And no doubt there will still somehow be those who claim that its all nonsense...
The wolrd is a weird place. And humans are crazy.
Cuz it is nonsense, let's not fingerpoint the illegal aliens that were arrested for starting it, but blame it all on global warming. You really are a sponge for sucking up conspiracy related content it would seem
A friend ran a plumbing business in the LA area for about 20 years prior to the early 2,000s. He has worked on many of the houses in the Pacific Pallisades area and it has long been regarded as a disaster waiting to happen in terms of wildfires. The last two winters saw heavy rainfall events (remember the mud slide issues around Malibu?) which generated massive vegetative growth and this winter has seen only 4mm of rain since last July so all that growth became potential wildfire fuel. Doesn't matter what the ignition source/s were, the whole situation was totally uncontrollable due to factors related to changing climatic conditions. And they're suggesting a total rebuild of the same area, doh!
The other factor that doesn't seem to have been picked up by the news is the absolutely massive amount of fire debris that now needs to be cleared and disposed of, bearing in mind that many of the homes destroyed are of an age that means they will have asbestos content. And where are they going to find the labour to do all this clean-up and rebuild the area when Trump is deporting all the immigrant labour that have up until now been the backbone of the construction industry.
The US is in for some very negative results from Trump's broad brush policies. Expect civil unrest and widespread economic difficulties as food production and construction are compromised by labour shortages and prices rise as a result of tariffs on imports. We're seeing Idiocracy play out in real life here and it's not going to end well.
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(23-01-2025, 08:30 AM)harm_less Wrote: (23-01-2025, 08:01 AM)C_T_Russell Wrote: This part is true, there was a lack of firefighters because of this.
Need to ask why this was in the most democratic state there is and under Bidens administration, very convenient that the water reservoir was empty for "maintenance"
Cuz it is nonsense, let's not fingerpoint the illegal aliens that were arrested for starting it, but blame it all on global warming. You really are a sponge for sucking up conspiracy related content it would seem
A friend ran a plumbing business in the LA area for about 20 years prior to the early 2,000s. He has worked on many of the houses in the Pacific Pallisades area and it has long been regarded as a disaster waiting to happen in terms of wildfires. The last two winters saw heavy rainfall events (remember the mud slide issues around Malibu?) which generated massive vegetative growth and this winter has seen only 4mm of rain since last July so all that growth became potential wildfire fuel. Doesn't matter what the ignition source/s were, the whole situation was totally uncontrollable due to factors related to changing climatic conditions. And they're suggesting a total rebuild of the same area, doh!
The other factor that doesn't seem to have been picked up by the news is the absolutely massive amount of fire debris that now needs to be cleared and disposed of, bearing in mind that many of the homes destroyed are of an age that means they will have asbestos content. And where are they going to find the labour to do all this clean-up and rebuild the area when Trump is deporting all the immigrant labour that have up until now been the backbone of the construction industry.
The US is in for some very negative results from Trump's broad brush policies. Expect civil unrest and widespread economic difficulties as food production and construction are compromised by labour shortages and prices rise as a result of tariffs on imports. We're seeing Idiocracy play out in real life here and it's not going to end well.
Aww - don't confuse poor old CT with facts...let him drool over his fantasies.
I do have other cameras!
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(23-01-2025, 08:30 AM)harm_less Wrote: (23-01-2025, 08:01 AM)C_T_Russell Wrote: This part is true, there was a lack of firefighters because of this.
Need to ask why this was in the most democratic state there is and under Bidens administration, very convenient that the water reservoir was empty for "maintenance"
Cuz it is nonsense, let's not fingerpoint the illegal aliens that were arrested for starting it, but blame it all on global warming. You really are a sponge for sucking up conspiracy related content it would seem
A friend ran a plumbing business in the LA area for about 20 years prior to the early 2,000s. He has worked on many of the houses in the Pacific Pallisades area and it has long been regarded as a disaster waiting to happen in terms of wildfires. The last two winters saw heavy rainfall events (remember the mud slide issues around Malibu?) which generated massive vegetative growth and this winter has seen only 4mm of rain since last July so all that growth became potential wildfire fuel. Doesn't matter what the ignition source/s were, the whole situation was totally uncontrollable due to factors related to changing climatic conditions. And they're suggesting a total rebuild of the same area, doh!
The other factor that doesn't seem to have been picked up by the news is the absolutely massive amount of fire debris that now needs to be cleared and disposed of, bearing in mind that many of the homes destroyed are of an age that means they will have asbestos content. And where are they going to find the labour to do all this clean-up and rebuild the area when Trump is deporting all the immigrant labour that have up until now been the backbone of the construction industry.
The US is in for some very negative results from Trump's broad brush policies. Expect civil unrest and widespread economic difficulties as food production and construction are compromised by labour shortages and prices rise as a result of tariffs on imports. We're seeing Idiocracy play out in real life here and it's not going to end well.
Jeez, c'mon that labour shortage is nothing.
Their just voted in glorious leader will roll up his sleeves & miraculously fix the mess....
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(23-01-2025, 08:30 AM)harm_less Wrote: (23-01-2025, 08:01 AM)C_T_Russell Wrote: This part is true, there was a lack of firefighters because of this.
Need to ask why this was in the most democratic state there is and under Bidens administration, very convenient that the water reservoir was empty for "maintenance"
Cuz it is nonsense, let's not fingerpoint the illegal aliens that were arrested for starting it, but blame it all on global warming. You really are a sponge for sucking up conspiracy related content it would seem
A friend ran a plumbing business in the LA area for about 20 years prior to the early 2,000s. He has worked on many of the houses in the Pacific Pallisades area and it has long been regarded as a disaster waiting to happen in terms of wildfires. The last two winters saw heavy rainfall events (remember the mud slide issues around Malibu?) which generated massive vegetative growth and this winter has seen only 4mm of rain since last July so all that growth became potential wildfire fuel. Doesn't matter what the ignition source/s were, the whole situation was totally uncontrollable due to factors related to changing climatic conditions. And they're suggesting a total rebuild of the same area, doh!
The other factor that doesn't seem to have been picked up by the news is the absolutely massive amount of fire debris that now needs to be cleared and disposed of, bearing in mind that many of the homes destroyed are of an age that means they will have asbestos content. And where are they going to find the labour to do all this clean-up and rebuild the area when Trump is deporting all the immigrant labour that have up until now been the backbone of the construction industry.
The US is in for some very negative results from Trump's broad brush policies. Expect civil unrest and widespread economic difficulties as food production and construction are compromised by labour shortages and prices rise as a result of tariffs on imports. We're seeing Idiocracy play out in real life here and it's not going to end well. Lots of factors at play here, but we do know that there was poor water storage for such an event and this area backs onto desert, its a highly populated place in a dry climate with no real plan set in stone to address fires.
It was a recipe for disaster, they have to pipe their water in all the way from the Colorado river, its one of the largest water schemes in the world.
Meanwhile Lake mead has been filling up again, California really needs to build better water storage infrastructure.
The natural environment in that region could never support that many million people with the water available, having to pipe the stuff in says alot.
Residential areas should not be built near forest either.
As far as all that overgrowth, perhaps that should have been cleared and never left to grow so much, and as far as immigrant labour goes, there are plenty of US citizens desperate for jobs, so why give it to immigrants?
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