(20-01-2023, 10:03 AM)harm_less Wrote: You seem to have completely glossed over the fact that the responsibilty for Labour's policies have been entirely personalised onto Jacinda which has resulted in a shitstorm of personal abuse that has made her position untenable. That is the totality of yesterday's events and your post continues on in that vein regardless.
Didn't mean to. I totally agree that so many people blame her for the team's decisions, but she is the spokesman and the leader so that comes with the job. I don't see any indication that she inherently disagreed with anything she had to front for.
(20-01-2023, 10:06 AM)king1 Wrote:(20-01-2023, 09:49 AM)SueDonim Wrote: Yes, that is exactly what they are trying to do. Clubs are now suffering because of the cost and complexity of new laws, supposedly to make things "safer" in a sport that has always been pretty much the safest sport there is. There is almost no accident data for target shooting because there are almost no accidents. So why spend money on admin that clubs can't afford when there are more dangerous things to deal with? Hunting accidents do happen and are expensive individually, but are also very few and far between in relation to the numbers of people out there doing it.
All industries suffer from the same impositions, no-one is being singled out...
It starts with governments (and departments) being held responsible or accountable for harm (legally and politically), and as such ends with governments needing to do everything possible to eliminate the risk of such harm... Nanny state at its finest, but simply what we as a society have created in NZ... I blame the activists...
I blame the government that bows to the activists instead of common sense. And you are right that it's not just sports shooting being targeted but that has to be one of the silliest. And it is putting a great sport at risk.
Another example in the misguided name of "safety" are things like - an untrained homeowner is allowed up on their roof to clean, paint, whatever they like. But anyone they employ, or to get up on their neighbour's roof, they have to have a ridiculous amount of scaffolding to stop them falling off. Even if they are a trained roofer who knows how to stay safe. Why? Because of the "accidents" from workers who go to work drugged and then fall off. Instead of dealing with the problem of drugs in the workplace, every homeowner needing roof maintenance done, or a new house built, spends tens of thousands extra.