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Woke attempting to block woman's rights activist entering NZ
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(23-03-2023, 01:24 PM)king1 Wrote:
(23-03-2023, 10:52 AM)C_T_Russell Wrote: Well I would like to think so, but sadly there is a great deal of pedophiles that are homosexual too. I dont want to be stereotypical here, but I know first hand of victims that took their own lives in the cult I grew up in.
We are talking about filthy old men attacking young boys, and yes the reverse happens too, but its wrong to think that straight men are the "obvious" danger, thats discrimination. The fact is that both straight and homosexual people can be a danger, not one group is any more or less at risk. Of course the cult I belonged to was totally anti-gay and labelled them as pedos which is not the case at all.
Now you can obviously see how this could be an issue for exploitation as discussed earlier when such an attacker may pretend to be trans and exploit these situations?
This cult is also is a registered charity in NZ and allows their hateful homophobic propaganda videos to be shown to their kids.
That is far more concern than this woman who is standing up for womans rights.



I found that guy quite deluded if you ask me.
Anyway, she said in the interview that she doesnt hate trandgender people, she just disagrees that transgender men are a woman. She is 100% correct.
Im all for inclusiveness and respect, but im not happy with the direction things are going.
Castrating boys as she puts it, is the truth and while that sounds harsh, its the reality.
This is the message she is putting out there and remember there are kids that go on to later regret it in life when they are adults. There are plenty of interviews of such ones that are now campaigning against this.
Schools are not the place for educating children on this topic either, leave it to the parents.

Edit: common sense prevails by immigration NZ:
It comes as Immigration NZ (INZ) finalised their review of the controversial anti-trans speaker's entry into the country, saying: “there is no reason to believe that she is, or is likely to be, a threat or risk to the public order or public interest".
https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/03/23/posie...-activist/

I'm surprised at your intolerance CT given that you grew up in that 'cult' that specialised in it and you now recognize all that is bad about it.

The difference here is choice and free will (closely aligned to free speech) - which can be summarised as...

If some bloke wants to be have his knackers knackered, and live his life as a female, then who are you or I to say they can't, by imposing our own beliefs and values upon themselves...

You say you are all for inclusiveness and respect but i'm not seeing a lot of it here.  and that lady saying she is only standing up for women's rights is just laughable -  many people find it very easy to lie to themselves about their real motivations are, so not surprising... 

People usually have two reasons for saying/doing something - the reason that sounds good, and their real reason...

If your born a woman, you are always a woman no matter what procedure you have done, what clothes you wear, etc, same goes if you are guy, you can dress how you want and go under the knife, but it doesnt change the fact who you are.
It gets to the point where this is being done to minors that are not yet at an adult age where they can make a properly informed decision.
Things like gender based toilets are an issue as discussed here, thats what im getting at.
Its actually physically impossible to give such ones the same rights that a biological female has, its impossible and unfair to genuine biological women.
Think of competitive sports as an example, even worse is beauty pageants. Where does it end?
Im all for inclusiveness, but unfortunately you have to draw a line and thats the price you have to pay.
And we should also discuss those that do regret having surgery, hormone treatment and other procedures. There have been several interviewed.


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RE: Woke attempting to block woman's rights activist entering NZ - by C_T_Russell - 23-03-2023, 01:39 PM

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