US Presidential Election Nov 6th

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Trump did not get the women's vote. Kamala did. Trump got the male vote, as expected.

I expect Project 25 will be put into action. We will see America go back to the 1930s. And worse? This time with climate change...

Don't fall for the thought that Trump is in power. Actually those who bought and paid for him are in control. The billionaires who have sucked all the money out of the middle class and those they rely on. The ones who hope that Trump will fall during his presidency, so they can replace him with Vance, the younger, cleverer, more loyal tool they have deliberately inserted for just that purpose. The billionaires who have never done an ounce of real work in their lives, like Trump himself, building their wealth on the labours and genius of those they swallowed courtesy of inherited wealth. Research it, surprising just how much truth is out there once you start looking. And not just swallowing the Kool Aid...

Or don't. If you prefer to remain unwoken.

[harm_less]

15,000,000 Democrats didn't vote;  a lot more women voted for Trump!!!!!

And that my friend should tell you alot about the state of affairs in the USA.
Perhaps that 15,000,000 did not support either party, so would rather not vote at all.

And you not understanding the amount of votes still to be counted which will make up a large part of any vote shortfall says a lot about the powers of comprehension of Trump supporters.

The policies that Trump plans to roll out are going to make for economic hardship for the very people who voted for him. Tariffs will ramp up inflation. Deportation of immigrants who do a large portion of the menial tasks and food production workforce will raise prices as wages for those that do those jobs rise will increase the price of food and services. A government driven by negative sentiment will foster crime and social disconnection with public services needing increased inputs so more expense.

The similarities with our own governments promotion of extractive industries will see the US leapfrog China's emissions with manufacturing and energy industries based on last century's technologies. Make no mistake, China's transition to renewable power generation is happening at pace and this together with the BRICS alliance will present a challenge to the US's international economic and political standing while their leadership is too anchored in the past to realise it until too late.

We like most of the world are viewing the coming Trump presidency with extreme apprehension and with good reason. Hold on 'cause we're in for a rough ride for the next few years.

[C_T_Russell]

And that my friend should tell you alot about the state of affairs in the USA.
Perhaps that 15,000,000 did not support either party, so would rather not vote at all.

And you not understanding the amount of votes still to be counted which will make up a large part of any vote shortfall says a lot about the powers of comprehension of Trump supporters.

The policies that Trump plans to roll out are going to make for economic hardship for the very people who voted for him. Tariffs will ramp up inflation. Deportation of immigrants who do a large portion of the menial tasks and food production workforce will raise prices as wages for those that do those jobs rise will increase the price of food and services. A government driven by negative sentiment will foster crime and social disconnection with public services needing increased inputs so more expense.

The similarities with our own governments promotion of extractive industries will see the US leapfrog China's emissions with manufacturing and energy industries based on last century's technologies. Make no mistake, China's transition to renewable power generation is happening at pace and this together with the BRICS alliance will present a challenge to the US's international economic and political standing while their leadership is too anchored in the past to realise it until too late.

We like most of the world are viewing the coming Trump presidency with extreme apprehension and with good reason. Hold on 'cause we're in for a rough ride for the next few years.

I think the media have painted Trump supporters as a minority fringe group, who are all conspiracy theorists, clearly not.
Tariffs are good for the economy, NZ used to have them too, then they all got lifted in the 80's (under Labour) and cheap Chinese goods flooded the market and NZ business's went under.
Inflation has been on the rise under Biden and now that will change.
Funny thing is if Tariffs are so bad, how come Biden chose to keep them?

[harm_less]

And you not understanding the amount of votes still to be counted which will make up a large part of any vote shortfall says a lot about the powers of comprehension of Trump supporters.

The policies that Trump plans to roll out are going to make for economic hardship for the very people who voted for him. Tariffs will ramp up inflation. Deportation of immigrants who do a large portion of the menial tasks and food production workforce will raise prices as wages for those that do those jobs rise will increase the price of food and services. A government driven by negative sentiment will foster crime and social disconnection with public services needing increased inputs so more expense.

The similarities with our own governments promotion of extractive industries will see the US leapfrog China's emissions with manufacturing and energy industries based on last century's technologies. Make no mistake, China's transition to renewable power generation is happening at pace and this together with the BRICS alliance will present a challenge to the US's international economic and political standing while their leadership is too anchored in the past to realise it until too late.

We like most of the world are viewing the coming Trump presidency with extreme apprehension and with good reason. Hold on 'cause we're in for a rough ride for the next few years.

I think the media have painted Trump supporters as a minority fringe group, who are all conspiracy theorists, clearly not.
Tariffs are good for the economy, NZ used to have them too, then they all got lifted in the 80's (under Labour) and cheap Chinese goods flooded the market and NZ business's went under.
Inflation has been on the rise under Biden and now that will change.
Funny thing is if Tariffs are so bad, how come Biden chose to keep them?

Tariffs are taxation as goods enter the country and are intended to protect a country's own production and manufacturing sectors. Those tariffs will increase the prices that Americans have to pay for those goods which will result in inflation. It's hardly rocket science but I did note that the MAGA individuals who were asked about tariffs really did struggle to understand the strategy beyond the import throttling effects.

As you state NZ had tariffs in place as a protection mechanism for our farmers until the 1980s when we moved away from protectionist policies in order to foster more palatable trade agreements. Tariffs are now regarded as an outdated and crude economic mechanism but like so many constructs in the US they are still stuck in their old ways and see it as their perceived 'safe place'.

Tariffs will result in economic isolation for the US with more negative effects than they have advantages. If they're happy to coddle their outdated manufacturing industries they're entitled to do so but in doing so they run the risk of being left behind technologically than they already are.

[Lilith7]

Its very clear that some of those women will eventually regret their vote.

And given Trump's racist views, its extremely likely that black & latino voters will have cause to regret their vote. The workers will also have cause to regret their choice if he can't provide all those jobs .

[harm_less]

Has Trump sorted out the Israel/Gaza and Russia/Ukraine problems yet?

Guess he's a bit busy today congratulating himself so that must be on tomorrow's to do list

[Lilith7]

Has Trump sorted out the Israel/Gaza and Russia/Ukraine problems yet?

Guess he's a bit busy today congratulating himself so that must be on tomorrow's to do list

Yeeaahh... that'll be it..

[Oh_hunnihunni]

You mean giving Ukraine to Russia, and Gaza to Israel? Probably take a week or so. I wonder how much North Korea will want...

[harm_less]

You mean giving Ukraine to Russia, and Gaza to Israel? Probably take a week or so. I wonder how much North Korea will want...

Apparently the North Korean soldiers that Russia have 'borrowed' to fight in the Ukraine have discovered the benefits of open internet access, and porn, so they've been somewhat distracted from their mission of late.

[dken31]

Has Trump sorted out the Israel/Gaza and Russia/Ukraine problems yet?

Guess he's a bit busy today congratulating himself so that must be on tomorrow's to do list

I know you're keen to finally see a president back in office once again, after Biden has ghosted us all for past however long, but Trump isn't actually president until next year. So, you'll just have to be patient.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

In addition to a quick exit stage left into the west?

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Has Trump sorted out the Israel/Gaza and Russia/Ukraine problems yet?

Guess he's a bit busy today congratulating himself so that must be on tomorrow's to do list

I know you're keen to finally see a president back in office once again, after Biden has ghosted us all for past however long, but Trump isn't actually president until next year. So, you'll just have to be patient.

Exactly, plenty of time to raid that mansion and drag him off to jail...

[harm_less]

The idea I saw earlier of Biden stepping down to allow Kamala to become president for the next few months does have a certain appeal.

Result: First female president (of colour) displacing Trump to #48. Petty but does seem amusing.

[zqwerty]

https://i.redd.it/b5sulby57ezd1.jpeg

[harm_less]

The idea I saw earlier of Biden stepping down to allow Kamala to become president for the next few months does have a certain appeal.

Result: First female president (of colour) displacing Trump to #48. Petty but does seem amusing.

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The US will cancel themselves out by natural attrition. Stupidity can be lethal.

[nzoomed]

Has Trump sorted out the Israel/Gaza and Russia/Ukraine problems yet?

Guess he's a bit busy today congratulating himself so that must be on tomorrow's to do list

I was watching this video here, it suggests that Putin may have been attempting to capture as much ground in Ukraine for potential bargaining in anticipation of a Trump victory.
Im a bit concerned about what a Trump victory means for Ukraine, but this war needs to end, and the only way Ukraine can be at peace is to get rid of Putin and his regime.

[dken31]

It would be a fittingly tragic end to a tragically useless career.

She slept her way into her first major political appointment, achieved very little as a senator and then was picked as VP by virtue of being a non-white woman. She then failed miserably in her attempt at winning the Dem candidacy via the normal route but then ended up there anyway via a backdoor appointment. Finally, she was soundly rejected by the American voting public despite running against supposedly the worst candidate there ever has ever been. All with a huge amount of support from wealthy donors and high profile celebrity endorsements.

So, for her to be forced on America against their clearly stated will would be totally undemocratic but mostly just tragic. It would essentially just be her playing at being an actual president, desperately trying to pretend that she hadn't been rejected by the voters.

[Oh_hunnihunni]

Bloody hell. And Trump gave multiple women nightmares after sexual assaults, both bragged about it then denied it in court, and then just recently gave a mic a blow job - but Kamala slept her way to the top?

That's the best you have? That old 50s thing?

[dken31]

Well that was only one of the points I raised, but then I'd expect you to have similarly dismissive rebuttals to them all anyway.

And yet you kind of prove my point regardless. I.e. if Trump really is that awful a person, Harris must be a remarkably useless candidate to lose against him so badly.

[harm_less]

Well that was only one of the points I raised, but then I'd expect you to have similarly dismissive rebuttals to them all anyway.

And yet you kind of prove my point regardless. I.e. if Trump really is that awful a person, Harris must be a remarkably useless candidate to lose against him so badly.

More the point is that Americans just aren't mature enough to vote a female into the top spot. Harris is better educated, not a criminal or demented, and has a far better attitude towards others than the orange shitgibbon but Americans were duped into thinking that Trump will make them all financially better off. Joke's on the Americans as history will soon show.

[Lilith7]

It would be a fittingly tragic end to a tragically useless career.

She slept her way into her first major political appointment, achieved very little as a senator and then was picked as VP by virtue of being a non-white woman. She then failed miserably in her attempt at winning the Dem candidacy via the normal route but then ended up there anyway via a backdoor appointment. Finally, she was soundly rejected by the American voting public despite running against supposedly the worst candidate there ever has ever been. All with a huge amount of support from wealthy donors and high profile celebrity endorsements.

So, for her to be forced on America against their clearly stated will would be totally undemocratic but mostly just tragic. It would essentially just be her playing at being an actual president, desperately trying to pretend that she hadn't been rejected by the voters.

Isn't it ever so interesting how a successful woman is invariably said to have 'slept her way to the top' - the first reaction of ther dyed-in-the-wool mysogynist. Because in their dimmest of dim views, no woman can ever have the skills or intelligence to do so without some kind of underhandedness.


Oddly, quite similar to the type of underhandedness some men have used in order to succeed, Harvey Weinstein being a well known example.

Also very interesting that that particular nasty little accusation is now seen for what it is, at least in America (for now) where it is illegal harrasmant & sexual discrimination.


https://nova-davis.medium.com/she-slept-...060e524e24

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Well that was only one of the points I raised, but then I'd expect you to have similarly dismissive rebuttals to them all anyway.

And yet you kind of prove my point regardless. I.e. if Trump really is that awful a person, Harris must be a remarkably useless candidate to lose against him so badly.

Or, thousands have been misled by Trump. 

I'm not an expert on history by any means but I understand that has happened inh the past...a few times, including by Adolf Hitler not so long ago. 

And from what I've read,more than a few lived to regret that. Though of course, some didn't. 

Live, that is....