ACT, How to destroy equity

[Lilith7]

They seem determined to pretend that trying to achieve equity for everyone is really racism & they won't stand for that. 

Somewhere in their hearts (assuming they have such a thing)  they must know that what they want is, if not racism then far closer to it than what's been achieved so far. Which would tend to make many ACT MP's  hypocrites.


They're going to stop 'services based on race' - & using an Indian member, Dr Parmeet Parmar to do so.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/556...ed-on-race


Warning,contains footage of a politician. He seems very proud of having scrapped free GP visits for Maori or Pasifikica & sems to believe thbat will bring about equity

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/527...d-not-race

[Oh_hunnihunni]

I am wondering if that means universities will close their prayer room spaces...

[Lilith7]

I am wondering if that means universities will close their prayer room spaces...

Oh, don't be so silly...well,perhaps just those Muslim ones. Since this lot give every indication of heading in the same direction as America....

[Oh_hunnihunni]

And most have marae...

[C_T_Russell]

They seem determined to pretend that trying to achieve equity for everyone is really racism & they won't stand for that. 

Somewhere in their hearts (assuming they have such a thing)  they must know that what they want is, if not racism then far closer to it than what's been achieved so far. Which would tend to make many ACT MP's  hypocrites.


They're going to stop 'services based on race' - & using an Indian member, Dr Parmeet Parmar to do so.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/556...ed-on-race


Warning,contains footage of a politician. He seems very proud of having scrapped free GP visits for Maori or Pasifikica & sems to believe thbat will bring about equity

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/527...d-not-race

So let me get this straight, you think that by removing services by race, and instead providing them by need, that this is somehow unequal or unfair? Putitng everyone in the race basket is not only unfair, but divisive.
You could have people of any race that are in the same need as someone who is maori and they get excluded by race, that by definition is racist.
We are a multi cultural nation with a mixture of different races, everyone needs to be treated fairly and equal.

There are plenty of "white" people who cant afford a doctors visit for their child, but meanwhile all maori get a free run, even if the family can afford to do so.
ACT are taking a common sense no-brainer approach here.

[Lilith7]

They seem determined to pretend that trying to achieve equity for everyone is really racism & they won't stand for that. 

Somewhere in their hearts (assuming they have such a thing)  they must know that what they want is, if not racism then far closer to it than what's been achieved so far. Which would tend to make many ACT MP's  hypocrites.


They're going to stop 'services based on race' - & using an Indian member, Dr Parmeet Parmar to do so.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/556...ed-on-race


Warning,contains footage of a politician. He seems very proud of having scrapped free GP visits for Maori or Pasifikica & sems to believe thbat will bring about equity

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/527...d-not-race

So let me get this straight, you think that by removing services by race, and instead providing them by need, that this is somehow unequal or unfair? Putitng everyone in the race basket is not only unfair, but divisive.
You could have people of any race that are in the same need as someone who is maori and they get excluded by race, that by definition is racist.
We are a multi cultural nation with a mixture of different races, everyone needs to be treated fairly and equal.

There are plenty of "white" people who cant afford a doctors visit for their child, but meanwhile all maori get a free run, even if the family can afford to do so.
ACT are taking a common sense no-brainer approach here.

"There are plenty of "white" people who cant afford a doctors visit for their child"




THAT would be the point fgs. To date, we have not had equity.
And the two words 'ACT' & commonsense don't really go together; they're attempting to increase the yawning gap betwen rich & poor that is what Neo Liberalism is about - greed.


https://dividedwefall.org/equity-vs-equality/



https://reciteme.com/news/equality-v-equity/

[Oh_hunnihunni]

But CT, surely before we can all be treated fairly and equal - your words, they have to be equal. And lots of simply are not.

Woman are not equal with men, people of different ethnicities are not equal, age groups are not equal, people of different faiths are not equal, people of different incomes are not equal, people of different social statuses are not equal. And people with different levels of education are not equal. Even people who just live in different parts of the country are not equal.

Life is not a one size fits all business, and so long as difference exists, 'fairly and equal' is just noise out of some politicians mouth.

[Lilith7]

But CT, surely before we can all be treated fairly and equal - your words, they have to be equal. And lots of simply are not.

Woman are not equal with men, people of different ethnicities are not equal, age groups are not equal, people of different faiths are not equal, people of different incomes are not equal, people of different social stauses are not equal. And people with different levels of education are not equal. Eveneople who just live in different parts of the country are not equal.

Life is not a one size fits all business, and so long as difference exists, 'fairly and equal' is just noise out of some politicians mouth.

Um...'mouth???' 

Or some other orifice perhaps..

[zqwerty]

Mostly out of bussies, since there are fewer female politicians.

That's a new word for me, I need to use it.

[C_T_Russell]

But CT, surely before we can all be treated fairly and equal - your words, they have to be equal. And lots of simply are not.

Woman are not equal with men, people of different ethnicities are not equal, age groups are not equal, people of different faiths are not equal, people of different incomes are not equal, people of different social statuses are not equal. And people with different levels of education are not equal. Even people who just live in different parts of the country are not equal.

Life is not a one size fits all business, and so long as difference exists, 'fairly and equal' is just noise out of some politicians mouth.

Thats my whole point, take the race card out of it and treat people by need, thats what ACT want to do. If you cant afford a doctors visit, regardless of your race, you get assistance. Pretty simple really.

[Lilith7]

But CT, surely before we can all be treated fairly and equal - your words, they have to be equal. And lots of simply are not.

Woman are not equal with men, people of different ethnicities are not equal, age groups are not equal, people of different faiths are not equal, people of different incomes are not equal, people of different social statuses are not equal. And people with different levels of education are not equal. Even people who just live in different parts of the country are not equal.

Life is not a one size fits all business, and so long as difference exists, 'fairly and equal' is just noise out of some politicians mouth.

Thats my whole point, take the race card out of it and treat people by need, thats what ACT want to do. If you cant afford a doctors visit, regardless of your race, you get assistance. Pretty simple really.

Yes, NEED is precisely WHY Maori were given extra help; because their need was in some areas greater due to inequality. 

Had this idiot govt not interfered we would eventually have had equity as a result.